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mhm. Okay, okay, so we're being recorded now. Hi, everyone. We're just going to start in a few minutes. We're just waiting for more people to trickle in. But thank you so much for coming. And the talk will start shortly. Okay? Brilliant. I think we've got enough people for now, and people are beginning to come and join the talks. That's great. Hello, everyone. Thank you so much for coming. This is the second I see a talk by Medicaid, and we're going to be talking about the oral assessment. Don't worry if your i c a r a different way around to the lay out that most of us have your b s c specific you and they will still be very, very useful to you, as it will be someone from your B s C in the year above answering your questions. So now I'd like to introduce our speaker's. We've got a thick and sunny who are going to give you a quick guide to the oral assessment. If you'd like to introduce yourselves. Thank you, I guess. Um, my name's Avik. I did the cancer frontiers, B s c um and yeah, so I'll be talking about the your assessment. Hi, I'm Sonny. I did the cardiovascular scientist B s c. Cool. So we may as well get started. I just want to caveat this before I know you guys have all got different. Um, I see a two. You might not be in the same order as well. Um, so we're just trying to give you We're going to try and give a sort of vague talk faster. How to do well in in any oral assessment. Really? My personal one was a poster last year. So I've got some advice about to do a poster. Um, probably be useful in the long term. Um, but one thing I just want to remind everyone is that this is an I say that's not really worth that much. I'll be honest with you. It's like, 3% or something. Um, and it's mainly what? The reason why they get you to do it is just a practice for your actual or presentation, which is worth, like, 10%. Um, and that's for your final project. So, um, let's go through. So, yeah, first things first were in fifth year. Now, um, I just want to remind you don't stress over this even though we are doing the talk and you guys are all here. Um, it's not. It's not worth that much. So just relax. B s C is literally, uh, to relax. Go on a holiday, literally. Enjoy yourself before you have to join the fifth year, which is hell, to be honest. Um, all right, so we're going to briefly cover the marking criteria, then go through sort of general tips. That poster's will cover some stuff about in person stuff. Virtual stuff. Uh, because I know some people will have to do it. Virtually some people have to go in person. Some people have to record something. Uh, and then Sunday is going to give you an example of sort of a PowerPoint presentation, and then we'll hopefully end on a Q and A. It shouldn't take that long. I think we should be finished by half past, so thanks. Um, so this is an example of the marking criteria. Uh, just want to point out to all the areas highlighted and read. These are the major points that are being assessed. The point that you see under the section very good These are the same points that will be assessed for every section above for excellent, outstanding and everything above 85 to, um, the points are the same. It's just the quality is different. So once you can cover these points and build upon them, uh, you'll be getting high marks. The major sections here, um, you can look first to communicating science. This is the largest part, and most of the marks are going to be based on this. It's it's an assessment of science. So you make sure you know the field very, very well, especially read around, uh, the topic in all of your specific subject areas. The next is a structure, Uh, this will depend heavily on the format, so there's not really much to say right now, but I think the main two are posters in PowerPoint presentations, both virtually and in persons, and we have examples of these at the end so we can go through them in a bit more detail. And finally, there are points for style, so it's important that you use no notes, don't hesitate and make sure you finish. If you're giving a presentation, make sure to finish within the final minute that you have allotted. Um, and these are the points up to 85. And on the next slide, we're going to show you if you're interested, uh, points up to 100 again. These are the same points from the very good section. Uh, it is just done at a higher standard. Okay, so I'm just going to go through some general tips common for B S C streams uncommon for different types of presentations. Um, so first one practice sounds cliche, but really, you do need to practice, and you can actually generally tell if you don't practice. But I've caveat did that with only a couple of times and not too much, really your only practicing to get in the time. I think that's that's the main thing. And they really care about timing's any certain BSC Stream's a little bit more lenient. For example, a couple of I can't remember, but ours weren't that lenient. Um, cancer frontiers made you sort of They cut you off halfway through. Um and also I think probably another thing to mention is that probably finishing a little bit before time is quite good. Um, in terms and obviously not leaving it like six or six or seven minutes. I would if it's a 10 minute presentation and I would try and finish sort of 8.5 minutes plus, but, you know, they always at the end of the day, the human beings, they don't like listening to you for a long time. Um, so if it's slightly shorter, it doesn't really matter. Um, but yeah, the practice is one of the main things. Um, and we'll talk about how to do that in a second. But don't do it too much because you don't want it to come across rehearsed. You want to come across quite natural, and then you know what you're talking about in a way, um, and you know, it's a little bit more fluid. Um, so, yeah, the other thing is, have a focus and paint a logical picture. So I'll talk to an example of this, uh, later on, but having a main focus to what you're talking about, and that's and self explanatory. But you'll be given something that's quite vague. Um, And if you focus on something that you find quite interesting within that topic, um, then That's probably the best way of going about it. Because not only do you come across quite passionate about it, but also, you know, you're more natural in the way you speak about the stuff and also be logical. Um, you know, have a logical structure classic. One is, you know, talking about background methods, um, results of the discussion. You know, different courses say different things, but have a logical picture as well. Yeah. So this next one sounds really self explanatory. But remember to reference people, for some reason, a lot of people on my course for the oral assessment just didn't reference. Uh, so I just thought I'd put that in there, but I assume you guys know that. So literally reference everything that you do if you're struggling to fix that stuff in, um So, for example, you've got poster you can just put put med I ds on, um, instead of the whole Vancouver referencing and stuff like that. Okay. Yeah. So it sounds like you're really interested in the area. That's something that they really like. Enthusiasm you might not be. And to be honest, I wasn't really interested in the topic that I got allocated, but just make up trying to sound like you're interested in the area. Um, yeah. Okay. It's probably quite an important one. So deliver information in small chunks and explain stuff. Scientifically, it is the B S c year, so yeah, scientifically is probably quite important. Um, and try and pretend that your audience isn't too cleared up. Now again, I've asked the risk that because most of the time your audience will know a lot about the stuff that you're talking about. In fact, they might grow you about it in the questions afterwards, but explaining stuff in a clear way in small chunks, concisely and also effectively show to them that you've understood the topic. Well, um, so, you know, don't make it two basic for them, but also don't make it overly complicated, you know? Explain yourself, okay? Oh, yeah. Be critical. Now, that's one of the marking criteria in the in the official imperial, um, market. Pretty that they've given us. Um, so be critical. Now. Obviously, you don't know if you guys have done the I say one, which is obviously critical appraisal letter to the end or something like that. Um, you have to be really critical that, you know, in a presentation, in any form you don't you don't really have time to be like too critical. But always, you know, say, for example, you're presenting figure or an experiment or, you know, something like that. Always say any drawbacks or, um, be critical about it appraises as much as you can, whether that's the good stuff, which people often forget when they're praising stuff. Um, or the bad things about it. Yeah, simplicity is key. Now I've put that in with posters. Any presentation? Um, look at this power point. I'm not saying it's good, but it's quite simple, to be honest, um, and hopefully get the point across. Um, they like things that are simple. If you're doing a presentation, one picture in a couple of words, that's all you need. Deliver stuff with in small chunks in the way that you can animate stuff. You can have a little bits appearing here and there. Just make it look professional as well. They really hate to see different fonts. I mean, I would just use aerial Don't use any other font. You're just being stupid. If if you use the other, the other fonts and they really don't like it as well. It's just something that, yeah, they just say they don't really like. I don't know why. Um, don't use too many colors as well as in you can. But if it's appropriate to yeah, just keep it simple, okay? I think probably this last bit of general tips, they love a really good figure. Now, this is I don't know if you can see if it's come across. One thing that they really hate is really bad figures. First of all, this figure on the left hand side here is really blurry. You can't You can't make out what it is. I know that self explanatory, but loads of people try and put in figures like this into the presentation, but it really has an impact on your marks. And a lot of the marks is on the actual aesthetic of what you're doing as well. Um, and that's in real life as well. When you go to a conference and post presentation or anything like that, a lot of the things that people judge you on is how you presented in terms of the aesthetics. Now It's blurry here and obviously on the right. I've got a better picture. And I've also made sure that the axes are very clear. Now, a figure is something that they really like. So if wherever you can try and get figures and graphs in, they really like it, they don't like text. Um, they really don't. Um, And if you can have, like, a pivotal figure in and pivot around that figure and, you know, keep that as your main focus. That's something that they really like. Um, so, yeah, try and pick out, Say, for example, you read something some, some really important figures, and then put them in. Um, okay, so sounds boring. This is my poster. I'm going to talk you through what they liked about it. What? What they didn't like about it. And I appreciate I'm not going to actually do the actual presentation for you. And a lot of the point is about the actual presentation, but having a look at it, the feedback that I got and I ended up doing quite well in this, um, somehow. But they said it was quite logical. It was very neat, very tidy. They really like figures again. That's the only good feedback I really got a lot was, you know, making simple schematics of stuff that cancer metabolism is really complicated. I've literally boiled it down to a couple of figures. Um, and but that's what they really liked anyway. And then I had a little graph here that I explained as well, the only really downside I had to This was they said I had too much white space. That is something in the poster. I think they don't really like in the scientific field. Um, but yeah, um, other things that I got in terms of good feedback was the way I explain it was very logical. The way I, you know, laid everything out was very logical. Um, and it painted a picture as well. That's what you want to do. You want to paint a picture? You know, you should have a problem or something right at the beginning, and then a way of going about it and maybe coming up with, uh, you know, something to solve that problem. And that's just a very basic, um, explanation to that. Yeah. Okay. So when you're doing stuff, virtually it sounds really sad. But if you go into teams, you can actually click this button in the middle at the top. Right? Called Meet now. And you can practice. And you can I don't know if it recorded. Can't remember if it records you, but you can literally practice with timing, okay? And that's the key thing I want you to remember. Just practice with time because I know people who didn't fail, but they didn't really bad because they just run out of time and they didn't get through the main stuff. Um, so if you could meet now on teams, he literally pops up with just a screen, and it's you and the screen, Really? And you can share your screen and you can time yourself and you can practice. But again, don't practice too much. Um, yeah, Another thing. I want to get across pointers. Um, they really like, uh, to be honest, this is common across all bs. See, streams. They are, like, obsessed with you, pointing at stuff. And of course it makes I mean, it makes it very easy to understand. Um, so, pointers, if you're doing it virtually, you can literally go onto power. point, and you can use it like a laser pointer. Um, but in person, people think, Oh, I'm going to point. I can just have to stand at the lectern and just just speak now, literally go up to your presentation point and stuff and be quite sort of in, you know, interact with the presentation poster, whatever is on the board, they really like it. Um, so, yeah. So this is an example of the Power point presentation. Um, style for this. I see. A This was my presentation for cardiology, and our task was to give a presentation on a new proposed drug. Um, so here are the slides. We had a limit of five slides. Um, you may have similar limits. We had 10 minutes to complete the presentation. It's important to note that we didn't have a lot of the time equally, uh, stuff like the introduction and the first couple of slides. They don't need as much time because they're not too relevant to the science. Uh, you see this? The slides in the top right hand corner and the bottom left hand corner took maybe three or four minutes each. Uh, these are the most important ones talking about mechanisms. Important point from here. Uh, you want to make use of graphics instead of using text, For example, the top left more graphics. Um, it makes it a lot easier because you want to be talking and you want to use the power point is an aide. If you're demonstrating mechanisms of action, a good idea is to find an existing image on Google, and you can use a little drawing tool. For example, I found a web site called M s Paint online and, uh, you can see in the bottom left corner. I've just drawn on to that, that the mechanism I wanted to use on to somebody else's existing, um uh, image. And you can do this to add any proposed structures and mechanisms. I think that's a common theme for some of these presentations. They want, uh, you to proposed mechanisms. Um, these slides were used as an aide. So the majority of the words here, we're going to be spoken. Uh, slides are just to demonstrate in to give a brief overview so the listeners can take a look if they missed anything, or they can take a look as as an aide to what you're saying. It's also still important to reference if you're giving a speech, if you're doing slides you can see at the bottom of each slide, there are references. It doesn't have to be very thorough. You can keep it brief. For example, here I use just the author's name, the journal and the year, and you can use a shorthand form for the journal for the, uh, for the next slide. You're going to be asked them questions afterwards. I think this is also common to all formats. Uh, the questions will focus on the science, so please make sure that you read into the area and also, if possible, find out who the examine is going to be. Quite often, this will be the person who gave you the task. The person holding the Q and A sessions in your respective Bs CS. These people quite often will be experts in this field, and you can look into this and they may. You can even anticipate some of the questions that they ask you based on their field of expertise. So, for example, for the presentation that I gave, the assessor had worked on some of these mechanisms herself, and so her questions were very much based around this. So it helps. Um it also helps if you focus the presentation on something you find interesting. If you can show enthusiasm as the final point says, it will come across more naturally, and it will come across as though you know more perhaps, than you actually do in this field. Uh, it's also important to maintain professionalism. Address. Well, this is especially important if you're delivering online. You can't create as much of a presence if you're delivering online, so you want to dress well, and this will add to the air of professionalism around your talk. If you don't know an answer, say you're not sure you tell them you will review it and get back to them. You never will get back to them. But it adds to the professionalism and that that's important when they're assessing that. Okay, next, we're going to go onto a Q and A session. If you have any questions about any of the slides, we can go back. I figure more questions based on presentations. You can ask me and, uh, for a week as well Questions based on posters. Thank you. So, one thing I just want to add as well as something that somebody just said, You know, get your you know, your course leads well, and I would like to think that they everyone done sort of like a mock presentation in some way. I know cancer always used to have one, like every other week. You know what they like, It's they're they're the ones that are going to be marking it as well. So you know, for example, Sun, he said in his presentation that they didn't really need to focus on the introduction that much. Whereas for us, you know, part of our post presentation, a lot of the marks they really liked was if you talk about the background a lot because, um, it's sort of eases the Examiner into it, you know, the examiner's quite well, so you it's really you're going to have to play it by, um, here a little bit. Um and you know, again, just don't stress out about it. You'll be fine. Yeah. So I'm happy to take any questions on absolutely anything, even if it's the about the oral presentation right at the end as well. Yeah. Does anyone have any questions at all? Feel free to ask anything while sunny and a vehicle there. Okay. You know, I've actually got a question. Um, what do you think are the factors that contribute to lower marks in people's presentations? Um, well, I can speak. Well, in general, I think talking to the course leads. Um, I I think you could. Well, I'm not trying to knowing someone that I didn't do well in the urine, and I was going to say it, but yeah, knowing someone who didn't do well in the oral presentation last year, um, for us that he didn't really know sorry, or she doesn't matter. Um uh, they didn't They didn't really know. Um uh, the science behind what was going on, to be honest and as a sudden, he said at the beginning, the science is the whole BSC year is about science. So if you don't understand the science and the mechanism behind what's going on, that's a big red flag to them. Number one, number two as well, I think just not being prepared. Like, of course, I think most people can flu the presentation you can. But also not knowing, Um, pivotal stuff is probably the way you can, um, not do well as well, and that's kind of self explanatory, but I think people need to hear it, so Yeah. Brilliant. There's quite a few questions on the chat, if you can see them. If you want to just metal through those do you want to take? Let me see. All right. Um, the question by Ashwin, how do you do? References for presentation. Um, just put a little superscript 123. Number it. And at the very bottom of the page at the bottom of your slide in brackets, you want the author's name? Uh, abbreviated version of the journal and the year. What's that? How did you first approach the paper? Uh, some of these based on papers. I don't know if you want to sort of expand a little bit. Um, yeah. We're happy to also take sort of specific questions if you want to. For your B s C as well. I mean, you'll have the breakout rooms. Um, So, um, we're just going to go to the next one for now. I probably take the next one as well. From, uh, there's one on proposing new therapies. How to how to approach a good place to start would be to look at the current field if there are certain therapies that exists. For example, ours was for heart failure. We had some old ones like Digoxin, very well known mechanism. There were some current trials that look, if there are any current trials as well see what mechanism these drugs are targeting. Find out what their flaws are. We were told that it didn't have to be awfully realistic as long as it was based on science. So find a new experimental or very recently released drug. Copy the exact mechanism, find out what the side effects are and just make your drugs such that it's, uh, pretty much a copy of that without the side effects. I did that for minds and ended up scoring quite well, so it doesn't have to be particularly realistic. They're not gonna go into side effects as much as you have a very good idea of the current mechanism, and that's going to be very easy if it's based on an existing therapeutic, because it's all published. Yeah, Bonnie. I'm not. We're not too sure about your questions. You wanna just maybe elaborate a little bit? Are you talking about your specific BSC? I'm not too sure. Um, yeah. Just keep the questions coming, if there are any. Um, but yeah, I think no one really fails this. I see a So don't worry. There was another point to add on missing marks. I heard a lot of people in our year, especially for for cardio. If you went over the time, they would cap, you're deducted that number of marks. So it's important not to go over either if they have to stop you before the end. It's not very good. Yeah. Mhm. Any more questions, folks? Or shall we head to the break up rooms? Um, now, the person who is doing your breakup room may or may not be there. Um uh, remote medic. We've all been given a paper to do a presentation on. Oh, interesting. Okay, so I think, um, is it sort of like a journal club kind of thing? If it is, then, um, probably quite interesting. I don't know if you want to assume it's like a journal club. So Essentially, you've been given a paper and you have to present the main findings of the paper. Um, again, Um okay, we've got someone who will talk about remote med, so they're probably in a better position to answer. But let me just quickly say, you know, journal clubs is essentially basically where you go through the paper and do a presentation on it. You go through the same thing background. But what you spend a lot of time on is critically appraising what they've done bad. What they haven't done. Uh, what what? They've done well and what they haven't done too well on and the figures. As quite as I said in my little bit of the talk figures are so important. And that's what science is all about. Really. They don't care about text. Um, just put put figures in and talk about it, but yeah, you can go into more detail about it in your specific break up rooms. Brilliant. Thank you so much of it. And send me. I think we'll start the B s C specific breakup room, so I'll just talk everyone through how to get there. Um, if you look on the left hand side of your screen, you'll see four icons, mainstage, break out sessions, event info and sponsors. The breakout session is the one for the breakout rooms. Um, so click on it and you should see an alphabetical order. A list of the bs CS. Just click on your design BSC to go to that break up room I will be recording. This session is recorded and the breakout room sessions where people are attending and asking questions will also be recorded. Now be visiting from time to time. Don't worry if the person for your breakout room is not there yet. They've been told to arrive between 7. 30 and 7. 40 but I'll be coming to check if they're coming. So if everyone would like to head to their break out sessions now, um, for their breakouts, the B S c specific Q and A. That would be great. Um, and, of course, please message on the chart. If you have any questions, any queries or anything you're concerned about, um, the other concern me. You're welcome to head there as well. Um, thank you so much for a brilliant talk. Thanks. If people want to email me. I don't know why, but try if they want to. I'm happy to give my email as well. Brilliant. I can see that people heading to the breakout rooms now. So you're more than welcome to go as well, and I'll just be visiting them from time to time to check. People are coming. All right. See you soon. Bye bye.