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perfect. I think we're live. Yeah. So we'll just wait for a few more people to join, and then we'll get started. But thank you to those of you who are waiting already. Okay. For those of you waiting, feel free to grab a cup of tea or, um, just a snack while we wait on others to join. And then we'll get started at five past the latest Dr Vickie Me. Are you happy for me to get started? And then as people join in, um, they can just see what stage you're at. Hopefully more people joined by the time I finish, uh, introduction. Good with that? Yeah. Perfect. All righty. So good afternoon. Good night. Depending on where you are in the world. Um, so my name is Chantelle, and I'm one of the members of med school extra. Thank you so much for joining us today. So before we get started, I know some of you will have attended our events before, um, while others are new to them. So med school extra. Just a brief introduction. Um, is a new program seeking to give medical students, doctors and dentists information that we may not have learned, um, whilst in medical school. So I will put a link in the chat to our website called Med School Extra dot co dot UK, where you will find webinars, um, about financial information foundation programs, um, and other exciting talks, Um, that you can just watch in your own time. So currently, we do a 3 99 lifetime subscription and it will change to 3 99 per month. So just grab that deal while you can. And this talk, we're going to be discussing leadership. So Doctor alchemy is very accomplished in her career. So I can't give her the floor until I introduce her and some of her accomplishments so far. So, um, she's a royal dentist, um, seeking to break down barriers to oral health for undeserved communities. Um, to ensure equitable access for all in Nigeria. She's the founder and executive director of Dental Care Foundation, which promotes oral health equity in under deserve communities through free dental services. She's an Alluna of the young African Leaders Initiative, R L C. West Africa, an associate fellow of the Royal Commonwealth Society, a senior Atlantic fellow for health equity at the Atlantic Institute and a senior fellow of the Aspen New Voices Fellow tip. She's the 2019 winner of the Nigerian, her network Woman of the Year Award for Healthcare and was listed among the 2 2020 leading ladies. Africa 100 Most Inspiring Women in Nigeria, Dr Vickie Me. Also one Covid 19 Intervention award at the 2021 A Q T Future Awards and the 2022 female Most Exceptional Change maker in Healthcare Award by the Humanitarian Awards Global. She's the author of the first oral health storybook in Nigeria called The Girl Who Found Her Smile and producer of the oral health animation series called Anita Says she had her bachelor of dental Surged Reap from Turn a Pill, National Medical University in Ukraine and her master's in medical leadership at Lancaster University here in the United Kingdom under the Commonwealth Distance Learning Scholarship. So without further a do, I'll let her get on with the talk, and we hope you enjoy. You would have received some feedback forms, hopefully in your email. If not, I will resend the link closer to the end of the talk, so we ask that you fill that out and you'll receive a certificate in return. Thank thank you chant to. And it's a great privilege for me to be here. It's an all something that medical extra is doing. And for some reason, I wish I had a platform like medical extra when I was in medical school, because I felt like, um, maybe that would have helped me a lot of my leadership journey or just in my health care journey as a doctor. So it's really great to have a platform like this, and it's really great to not be able to talk about leadership beyond consulting rooms and prescription pets. And, um, thank you for that introduction for me. Well, let me just briefly say this before I go on that. When I was a little girl, I had this dream to change the world, and I thought, for some reason that um, one of the key to changing the world was becoming a doctor by Sutherland's in medical school and after medical school that being a doctor is not enough to change the world because changing the world, especially in the healthcare sector, where we have lights on the on on two decks, should I say it's two decks of the bladder, which is, um, your skill as a doctor and definitely your skills as a leader And think of that I was able to then that even during med school and after med school. So because the truth is even Covid, 19, has shown to us that for a long time when it comes to healthcare, we've been leaning on the wrong wall. Should I said, not just the wrong. We're beginning on just one day, which is as cues as healthcare professionals as cues as doctors. And But that's not enough, because as doctors, we relating with people the safety of our patient's lies on our decisions lies on. Sometimes our emotional intelligence lies on our teamwork effectiveness, as it seems, and that is a great uh, it's it. Should I say it's a great responsibility as a doctor because most people and most of those patient and most of the people we deal with often assume that being a doctor means that automatically, you should be a good leader, and you should be able to make the right decision, especially when it comes to the life of people and saving lives. But that is not always true. And, um, as as a medical student, you have to know that, or as a people, just as a doctor, as a dentist, quarantine, You have to know that it's not enough for you to have all the skills that you've gotten in medical school. You have to be is either. And you know, a lot of people that a lot of medical students I talked to, you know, there's always this question of, um uh, it's it's just a random question of, uh, leaders made. Are leaders born, you know, know, do people just have leadership ability? I will say that. And I strongly believe this because, um growing up from a very, very poor community, I I wouldn't say I saw myself as a leader. So, um, but I grew up to to begin to wear a lot of leadership as because I've got to take responsibility for my leadership journey. So I will say that leaders can be made at any point in time. You know, you can become a leader right from your first year in medical school, you can become a leader even from pre med before you get to medical school because leadership is not about the title. It's not about. It's not about being the head of the department or head of, uh, like a like a head of psychiatry or head of surgery. That's not what leadership is about. Leadership is about influence. Leadership is about enabling people. Leadership is about influencing people towards a change, and that's why so I'm just gonna change my slides so we can for, like, opium following, even though I can see the chat. But feel free to jump in from the chat. So like, like I explained before, leadership is about influencing people and enabling people to what's a purple through the tool of service. So one thing you must understand that, um, as a doctor, should I say dizzy to me when I thought of changing the world, I had this idea of, you know, when you see Michelle Obama standing in front of people and just talking to people and getting all the opposites, but that's not true. That's not what leadership is about In leadership. You have to serve people in leadership. You have to give your skills in leadership. You have to sacrifice sacrifice in leadership you have to give your time. So leadership is forced about service. And that's what practically that's what medicine is about. Because in medicine, as medical students right now, and even as doctors and dentists, you realize that practically your own life is about sacrifice is about service. Sometimes you have to choose when to be with your family. As I look at look at during the covid a lot of medical practitioners as to, you know, spend should I say the less time with your family just to make sure that the lives of other people are being saved. And that's the sacrifice that we have as doctors or healthcare professionals generally so. But when we talk about leadership as a oh, we must understand that leadership is not about you and you alone. There's nothing like leadership when you're not influencing people. There's nothing like leadership when you're not moving people, you're not driving people when you're not enabling people when you're not empowering people, because the truth is people think that when it comes to leadership, it has to do with people in power, and that's not true. Leadership is not about people in power, but it's about the people who empower orders towards the change. So it means that as a medical student, I can be a leader because I'm empowering my other medical student to probably give their best in a particular area of, um of the of their career even before we get into med. Um, even because before we get into internship or resident, what am I doing to make a change? What am I doing in my community to make a change? And that's what leadership is. So being a leader doesn't necessarily start from, you know, should I say, aspiring to be? Yes, it's part of it doesn't necessarily aspiring to be a specialist in endocrinology or a specialist in dentistry or pediatric dentistry or whatever that you you really want to be. That's not where it starts. It starts from you. It starts from your decision to say I want to influence people. What do I have to make a change? What are the skills that I have? What do I have to offer? So even the question I always ask medical students that, you know, come to say okay, I want some form of mentoring or how how can I should. I say on my leadership skill is what are you doing with what you have right now? Just look around in your your year of medical school right now. What am I doing to make a change? What do I have to offer, who are the people and influencing? And that's where leadership itself starts from. And let me, um, let me say this. That Why are we talking about leadership in Okay? Why is it that just being a doctor, being a dentist is not enough to really be enough? All I need is my skill in the surgical room, right. I need, um, my skew as a surgeon to, you know, just, um, get the life of a patient on board. Should I say save his life Isn't that enough? But the truth is, when we're talking about quality healthcare and when when I'm talking about quality and quality healthcare, the truth is you cannot have I quality healthcare without without leadership. And that's because, um, when it comes to healthcare, it's about making decisions, making decisions in your consulting rooms, making decisions on the drugs to prescribe making decisions on who to go for dialysis is making decisions on the next person to get implants, um, implants. Or should I say transplants? Do you get it? It's it's It's a whole lot of decision make in in healthcare and to get the best and to stab, you know, the patient's the best of waste. You cannot do it without leadership. And of course, secondly, because we as doctors and leaders, we add, called to serve, there will always be scenarios where you call to serve in the emergency room in your consulting rooms. You know, the Nazis. It doesn't matter. The practice. The technicians were always call on to you to make leadership decisions because, like I said previously, there's this assumption that doctors are leaders automatically because their doctors people assume that the moment you end that title of being a doctor, you end what it takes to make a life changing decision. And that's a big responsibility, I tell you. And the truth is, you can't do that without owning your leaderships Go. You can't do that without knowing yourself. You can't You can't do that without exploring your stuff, friends and your weaknesses, and sent out to effectively relate with people and that's what leadership is about. So when we're talking about leadership, it's a call. Should I say it's a real core of healthcare and it must not be ignored. And up until recently, you know, years back, you you find a med school, really even do things that has to do with leadership. People go through medical school without, you know, going through any form of leadership training. But the good thing is, um, these days, one or two United States, some of the medical schools that we have today have a way of, you know, training medical students, dental students out get professionals out to, um, should I say, develop their leadership skill. And that is that is great. But the truth is, this is a lifetime of learning. This is a learning that should be done throughout your journey as a doctor. This is not something that you just learned in the classroom, or you just take your position room and that is the end of it. I hope we're following. So when it comes to leadership as a oh, you must and I say you must it is very, very important that as a doctor, as an healthcare professional. You are, uh you are bound bound on developing your leadership school and let me say this. And this is something I had to remind myself time and time again. Even, you know, when delivery patient's when when I'm in my organization when I'm in my organization. Is this that you can't talk about transformational leadership? You can't talk about changing anything in the field of healthcare without effective teamwork. And I tell you, that's because see one thing. One thing about healthcare generally is that healthcare consists of teams. You have to walk with a lot of different people. You have to work with nurses, you have to work with physician assistants. And the truth is, how will you manage? Or should I say your theme determines the best result you can get, and that does not That is not talk to you. Indeed that, um, that is not out to you in medical school. Nobody would teach you in medical school how to address the nurse that it's going to be in the surgery with you or nobody is gonna teach you a medical school. How to you know how to assign what to do, what's in your team. Nobody's gonna teach you. They can give you the best of the surgery. You know, the surgery skills that you need, or probably how to prescribe or the medication to prescribe for a diabetic patient or or or no, Do you get it? But nobody is going to teach you how to raise and develop an effective thing. It takes leadership skills to do that. So one of the things that I out strongly learned is this to understand that good doctors don't always don't always make good leaders. And if if you're privileged to watch the series house, which I was privileged to, you know, I used to love the series house and, like I stopped watching it for a while. And the truth is, you can see from Doctor House that just being a good doctor, an excellent doctor being the best of yourself as a doctor is not enough. You have to walk with people. You have to make life changing decisions, and that is crucial on its own. And let me say this that good, good leadership is not first about your skill. It's about how you can drive people. It's about how you can drive, results, drive people, drive results, drive people, drive results. It comes in form of communication. How can I communicate? How well am I listening to my team? How well am I listening to people? And the truth is, this doesn't start in the consulting room. It starts while you are a med school. Because for instances in medical for me, for example, when I was in med school from I told you I started attending Clinicals. I started attending to patient's. I started working with my colleagues, and from there my strength and my weakness is began to show. How well do I listen to people? Am I just willing to showcase what I know or I'm Well, I'm there to listen to their opinion and see without your perspective matters in the decision concerning a patient, This is key. It is key, and these are the leadership skills that we're talking about. So when we're talking about leadership skills were not was talking about Oh, so after medical school, when I become the head of so so, so so hospital, that's not it. It doesn't start from there. It starts from you. Are you relating with your colleagues. Are you working with your colleagues? How you, you know, are you? Should I say the decision's your making? Now it starts from problem solving. How am I challenging that problem? What are the solutions that I'm preferring to that problem? And it starts, they said, is sometimes I I do tell medical students that your leadership schools necessarily does not even have to start with things that has to do with medicine. Sometimes you look over your life and I look over the decisions I've made in my life, and I see how effective those decisions have made in my life have preferred solutions for some of my patient's. Not everybody. Because, of course, we know that in medicine we don't use, uh, experience life experiences to treat people. But I tell you that there are some decision making that has to do with you know, your strengths to prefer solution that will come into play your Kaczynski room that will come into play in prescribing for people. And that is, I tell you, that is a major and major, major, major, major, major, cute key. So now let me also say this that when it comes to leadership. Leadership isn't about power. Leadership is about persuasion. It's about persuasion. And we were talking about persuasion. We are not talking about manipulating people. You know, there's a lot of I've been privileged to Should I say, get into healthcare leadership right from after my internship. So after my internship, I was privileged due to, like, several skills I have acquired in medical school. I was privileged to jump in into the healthcare leadership right from the sun. That and I realized that, you know, people just expect that, you know, people begin to question me until because you're in power, you should be able to prefer this solution. And But I realized that people didn't didn't start to follow me or respond to the things I said until I add the influence to persuade them. And when I'm talking about influence to persuade them, I'm not talking about manipulation. I'm not talking about manipulating people. I'm talking about influencing them towards the change, listening to what they have to say and when it against what is on ground and preferring a solution from there. And that was what should I say? One of the the key that I use in my because currently I did my organization and I did you know, quite a number of people and volunteers. I work with changing stuffs and all that. And I realized that see, people will never stay with you, not because you have the power because you're in leadership. People who stay with you because they are persuaded too. Because if people are forced to stay with you, then it's no longer leadership. You're bossing them around. That's manipulation. And when it comes to leadership, it's beyond. Like see, I've never heard of in my journey true leadership. No one has ever asked me how good of a doctor are you? What did you graduate to Its work? World class of people listen to me because they because they feel that first of all, I listen to them as a leader. Second of all, I am able to prefer a solution and thought of all because I am able to develop them. Remember I said this. That leadership is about enabling people. It's about, you know, empowering people, bringing out the best in people. What are you doing towards that? You don't have to be in power to enable people you don't have to. You don't have to be in power to pour into people. And that's what leadership is about. Leadership is about, um, you know, seeing the best of people and looking at that your colleague give a right in medical school and say, Oh, I believe you up more. Scuse in, for instance, that's a surgery. I see that you're doing well when it comes to reading. I feel that you know how to balance your time Very well. How about you? You know, we come together and train, you know, some of our colleagues on how to balance their time or how to be the best of you know how to make the best of medical school. And for instances, um, one of the things that I really admire is medical Extra is made up of, you know, doctors, dentists, but also medical students who are driving this organization. And that is leadership. That itself is leadership. I say that leadership would never will never start from your consulting room. It will never start from where you're signing those prescription parts. That's not where it starts from, because it's what you you develop right now, while you're in school or why you're in your journey of growth as a doctor, that would make a large effect. Do you get it? So what? When you were talking about leadership, we're talking about learning through service, volunteering one of my volunteering to do right now. And you know, there's this thing I hear a lot of medical students or should I say, medical? Uh, dentist. And they say, Oh, no, being a medical practitioner takes your time. Being a dentist takes your time Being a medical student takes your time. You have classes, you have clinicals. You have to be on call and this it's see when it comes to time. I don't want to say it will never get better. But the truth is you're gonna get busier. So you better just settle with it that if I'm going to change the world, then I just have to do it by sacrificing my time. I just have to do it by pouring a lot of myself into it. So fine time, whether you're on break to volunteer. Like I said, the first key and the number one kid like I'm jumping now because I for some reason I'm not able to change the slightly keeps. And I don't know if it's my network. If, Okay, but let me just say this is You must be ready to direct your own leadership journey. You must be ready to direct your leadership journey by developing a growth mindset and that can be taught to you in the classroom. Ask yourself this. And this is a question I always ask myself, How do I want to grow? How do you want to grow? What do you want to grow in? How do you want to develop your emotional intelligence? You're just gonna need that, you know, when you're have to treat a terminal patient's emotional intelligence is what will help you and do it and help your patient and do those decisions that you make as a doctor. Those do not cut when you're in front of the patient's. Those starts right from your medical school. You know, um, when I was in medical school, should I like, I didn't really have a tough time with Should I say residents and all that? We'll eventually, when I moved back to Nigeria and I started walking the clinic, I had a lot of tough time with, you know, residents especialista, you know, especially when you're an intern. Or should I say, junior doctor, there's a way. You know, um, there's there's this, uh, you guys, if you're not cared with, it can be like you're being intimidated by the seniors And you know, all the decisions being made in in the in the consulting rooms at the surgical rooms. And sometimes it feels like, Am I just a coffee girl? Am I just Erin girl as an intern and all that? But that's not true, because the truth is why you're in that journey, you're developing your emotional intelligence. How well do I handle this? I will do I handle being talked back to How well do I handle those patients' that's in the midst of situations? You know, uh, some patient's eat a doctor right in the middle of soldier just because they feel that when it comes to emergency room, it's about who came first. But, you know, part of leadership is what helps you to think in my emergency room. It's not about who came who arrives first is about what is an emergency in this case and those are Those are leadership Sincerely, those those Those are leadership skills that you did develop being able to think in on your feet, being able to think outside of the box. You know, when you're you know, that my textbook says this, but I'm right in front of that patient and this defiles everything that the textbook says. How are you going to make that decision? What decision are good that has to do with your leadership That has to do with your critical thinking that has to do with thinking outside of the box. And that has to do with your leadership skills. So I must say this direct your own leadership journey. How do you do that from med school? From where to right where you are now. Reflect One of them that work for me is reflection. I reflect a lot. You know, sometimes you can do that by journal in, you know, look at it. How do I reflect On my day as a medical student, I was attending to this patient. How could I have done this better? What are the strengths that I have? And that's why we'll talk about self awareness now. No yourself. There's no leadership without knowing yourself, because the first person you ever lied is yourself. So you must be very self aware. One of my strengths. What are my weakness is you know, one of the things that I think about myself that helped me to also grow my organization is personally I have the tendency to want to do it all. I have the tendency to sometimes be a perfectionist. So when I have the tendency to micromanage people when I mean micromanage people because I want people to do, why can't you just do it the way I want it to be done? But, you know, in my leadership journey, I had on the the differences of people diversity of people, understanding that people would always do things differently. And I should aim for getting the result. If I am ever going to get the best of people or enable them, I must cut them into doing things, not tell them to do things for instances in my team, rather than telling my team member that all go and do so so so so so. And this is what I want to step one Step two. Step three. I just give them an idea. I want to get this done. How do you think that's How do you think that you can get this done? Because that's about bringing people's strengths into play with that. What happens is that you have diverse people bringing up their skills to help a project or to realize it's even in the consulting room to help everything blow up. And the best is seen when this team work is done. So one thing you must see, I I tell people I mentor a lot. You must be self. I take a lot of self awareness test. I know it's not a judge, but I do that a lot. I explore my personality who I am, what I'm doing, Okay, I know that I have the tendency to listen less to people. How can I walk on listening to people? Because cause I know that as a leader, I must listen and not just listen. Listen attentively, not because it feels like oh, so that they will know that I'm listening to them, but to hear what they're saying to hear what they're not saying, you know, as a leader. One of the things I had to should I say imbibe in my organization is what I call 1 to 1 meetings. And they began to work because there's no trust without listening to people. There's no trust without getting to know people. So self awareness gets to, you know, yourself. What are your strengths? Where delegation is delegation. Your strengths, like I learned to the Advair delegation, was never my strength. But I understand that if I was going to build leaders, if I'm gonna build, you know, people my team, I have to learn to delegate. If I'm gonna learn out to, you know, to to maintain my mental health are not born out, you have to dedicate Know what you can do, Know what to dedicate. That's all part of self awareness. I don't want to um, should I say linger on that and I will say this. Secondly, please and please. Mentoring is key in your leadership journey. I tell medical students I tell dentist, there's no dizzy view of life where you've acquired today or you don't say I'm a special I can never be mentored. The truth is, when it comes to mentoring you can write on the stories, the experiences and the shoulders of mentors. You don't have to learn from painful experiences. You know, when I was in medical school, I, um I was privileged. They realized I was privileged to fill the cause. And and from that experience and just talking to my mentor about it, I I learned a lot because I realized that at that point it wasn't about the, uh I was really studying concerning that cause to to just get by if I wasn't any what I needed in that course. And I learned from the experiences of my mentor. So I tell you, get a mentor, get some and see in this mentoring journey, I see a lot of people that go through mentorship and, you know, they ask, um, they ask questions like, Oh, like I have a mentor. Shouldn't the mental contact me? You don't want going after knowledge? Put your best to it. Mentoring is a two way. It's a two way traffic. You have to be willing to give you all you have to be giving your time, willing to give your time to mentorship, seek mentorship. Look for someone that is in the past that you are getting into and say, How can this and please in mentoring, you know, be very, very specific. Know what you want to get from it when you're writing a letter to a mentor? Say, Oh, I see what you're doing. So so, So so so And I would like to achieve this. I'm a medical student and this is where I'm going to. How can we fix the time to talk? Because the truth is, you know, you always have mentors that busy. You're always have people that are busy, but that in itself, committing your time, committing your you know, your efforts. It is a big deal. Is a major do so mentoring, just mentoring. But mentoring orders? Because one of the ways that you then as the, uh from me steaks and you know not just for mistakes mentoring people, too, because as you're learning, you're pouring into orders and it's about enabling from should I say a downward movement mentoring. They there There's something called peer mentoring. There could be mentoring among your colleagues, mentoring among doctors, just mentoring platforms and okay, so like, like then move onto communication skills because I think my time is, um, fast friends. Is that in leadership journey? See, we are in a generation where healthcare has become more technological. Let me say this because you know we are. Oh, there were times where we had to do with healthcare. You have leaders talking to the television stations. Let's doctors writing opinion pieces. But right now, we're in a time when if we're going to advocate for the change that we need in healthcare medical, she likes the medical students, doctors. Dentists need to be out there. We need to put ourselves how there we need to walk on our public speaker and that's what leadership is about. Remember, leadership is about influence. You you can't influence people when you are not in their community. You can influence people when you don't have a voice. And that is why we are raising medical students, raising dentists, raising people to have a voice, whether it's on the rle community or it's in the band community, or it doesn't matter what faith you have, you must have that voice not just have that voice, but be able to bring those people that you know you're representing into that same room where you have that voice and that has to do with your communication skills. How well are you able to okay it for your community? For for instance, I walk in auroral community and half of the time I have to negotiate on behalf of people have to go to meet government people. I have to go into boardrooms to be able to talk for the neural communities I come with. So negotiation skills are key. How well do you bring people stories to to play without, you know, making them feel less than they are. These are part of negotiation skills. So you must work on developing your communication skill. Public speaking. How do I speak about I take a lot of trainings even right now as a doctor or how to speak better? How to express myself Better confidence. Now, one of the things that I'm privileged should I say I know that I've worked on is you know, you must come with and it has to do with self awareness, just understanding that where you come from does not make you your race does not make you your status as a medical student. does not make you. What makes you is what you set within you. And that's why I talked about mindset. You can be the best of yourself, So don't look at yourself that, Oh, I come from this community. I can't speak well, so I feel like I'll just give my skill. Let someone else go and speak well. Well, if every medical student was talking like that, nobody would be speaking for anybody. So I would say this walk on your communication skill. Walk on how well you communicate on those skills opinion pieces, I tell medical cost. And right now it's See your opinion are no less. Just because you're in May Medical student. It doesn't mean because I'm a medical student. I don't have any opinion I can't talk on. For instance, I can't talk on gender based violence because I'm a medical student. I know you're graduated. That's not true. Begin with then from the experiences you are getting from the consulting rooms, even though you're not a graduated from the consulting rooms. Now, how can I talk on this? What are the things that I've been spoken all day? What? How can I advocate for for instances, sexual rights for the female gender for, you know, whatever. Whatever Status for transgender. How can I advocate for these people with my voice, even as medical students you know these days I see medical students in Nigeria in United Kingdom. In us, doing a lot with your voice is writing opinion pieces. Right now you can change the world even from being a medical students. So it's very, very, very key. I say very, very key to this. So please, as much as further, I think I have to round up now. One of the things you must understand is when it comes to leading when it comes to, you know, just taking up that leadership skews on the inside of you. It starts from you. The other list person you will ever ever have to lead is yourself. Leadership starts within first before it starts outside, so you can't give what you don't have. That's what people that's what people you know. You see, I'm privileged to experience this in my I am. I'm working with governments and working with just even in royal promises that I see people assume leadership Title's and they don't have leadership skills. At the end of the day, they feel along the way, no matter your degree, no matter the things that you have. If you don't look inward and begin to walk on, those trends begin to X. You know, begin with self discipline. Your yourself to, you know, to develop yourself, to train yourself, to listen to people, to train yourself to in emotional intelligence, on managing people. It is key. You may never get the best of yourself as a doctor. It's absolutely impossible to get the best of yourself as a doctor without on these scales. So as much as, uh, I'll say this, please seek training. Sick opportunities outside of med school, Sick opportunity outside of your consulting rooms. Get You know, I tell people, Look out there. You know you can't be a medical student right now, thinking of changing the world. You don't have a victim page. You don't have social media. You don't have a place Where to, you know, get I know, you know. Like I said earlier, there's always this this idea that med school takes your time, but but there will always, always, never be enough time for you as a medical student, So you better get that ready. You must be ready to do as a medical student aiming for leadership. Or should I say, as a doctor, dentist, aiming for leadership, you must be ready to do by commitments what others are doing by convenience. It means when people are saying, Oh, I there's no time, It's not convenient for me. You are doing it by commitment, even though it's not convenient for you. So I'm just gonna end with this that the team line between ordinary and extraordinary doctors is that little extra. So is that little extra that you put in to develop yourself, to know yourself, to reflect on yourself to reflect on your leadership journey. And then you end by saying these sick opportunities as much as possible, get involved in your medical activities, extra curricular activities, things that will develop you and make you think outside of the box as a doctor. So thank you very much. Thank you so much for that doctor. Did Akemi Um, I will allow people to ask any questions that they have right now. Um, in the chat, Um, and if I get any, I'll read them out to you for you to answer. 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