Congratulations on making it to second year at ICSM!! MedEd wants to ensure that you are all informed for the year ahead with our ‘Intro to Second Year Talk’. This will be hosted by 2 of our high achieving second years: Khiloni Dodhia and Daniel Sanmuganathan
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OK, guys, I think we'll start now and then obviously, as more and more people come in, we'll just keep it going. So, welcome to your intro to second year talk and it'll be hosted by Daniel and Colon. Uh, but before we start, I thought me and Simmy should introduce ourselves. So I'm Vin and then Simmy, if you give us a wave, um, we're the earlier coordinators for this year. So we'll be looking after you guys and the first years. Um So if you ever have any questions, queries don't know where our recording is or don't know how to join anything, just always send a text, whatsapp, email anything to me and Simmy. Um, but that's us and we'll also have AQ and A at the end of this. So if you guys, um I think it's on the options like messages, polls and Q and A. So if you add any questions you have onto the Q and A, er, we'll have a little bit at the end where we answer your questions, but I'm gonna hand it over to down in colon for now. So, hi, everyone. So as Ben said, um, we're just gonna be giving you an intro into second year. Um I know you guys have had a week. Um, but hopefully these like tips will just help you throughout the year. Um So I'm Cloy. I'm a third year. Oh, hi, everyone. I'm Daniel. I'm like Colony. I'm also a third year. And yeah, today it's just mainly uh giving you an intro to year two and what to expect in the next year. Ok. So I'll talk over the lecture timeline. So we're gonna be talking about the time. Uh, as for the things that we didn't include in the slides, we did want to say that uh, one thing is timetabled is that all your modules run at the same time unlike first year where it very much like P and then BRS was separate. Now it's like PM, sorry, BR scsi LA. It's all sort of running at the same times. So, II do think that makes it more tricky to keep on top of things. Uh, but it's definitely doable and, uh, that's what this talk is for. So you don't have to worry about it. Uh And also in terms of placements, we didn't include these in the slides, but just to quickly go over them, you have uh two hospital placements and ideally one medicine, one surgery placement. Uh and those are both at the end of term one and then the end of term two for two weeks, uh two weeks each and then you also have a GP placement where you do a project for your PC H module. It's called the Community Collaboration project. Uh And it's really simple. So we didn't really include it in the slides, but you can have uh in the Q and a function like uh Vinai. Please let us know if you have any questions about that. Uh And we can talk about that a bit later as well, but essentially the CCP is just the for the GP placement doing a project to improve the GPS er services. And you will figure that out as term one. Definitely during term two, you'll be doing that. Uh But today we'll be covering mainly your modules and exams and what to expect for each exam and how to prepare for your uh exams, which are the main exams uh being in May. And then after we go through each module, we'll have a key takeaway section and uh that will just be a summary of this entire talk and then we'll have AQ and a section for you guys to ask any questions you want. Ok. So um I'll just start off with BRS first. Um So again, that's gonna be your written paper. Um It'll be three hours long and it'll be a mixture of SBA S BSA Qs and Sa Qs. So what you were used to from first year, um I will say our exam was quite time pressured. So just keep that in mind. Um And then also anatomy which makes a part of like your overall BR BRS mark, but it's like a separate exam. Um That's an hour. Um It's approximately like equally split between A PP questions and upper and lower limb questions as well and that will be a mixture of SBA S and BSA Qs. Um So going on to our like main tips for BRS. Um So we'd suggest for the EFA S try to revise for them as much as you can. Um I know like a lot of people say don't bother. Um But I think you'll find if you don't really use these as like good like points, like to like keep on top of things. Um You might just, you know, just let everything like pile up. Um And you don't really want to do that. Um So yeah, again, it just falls to start early and will probably just make you a little less stressed during Easter. Um Also like using a tracker for your lectures and tutorials. Um I found was quite useful. Um You've got so many like lectures and tutorials, it's quite hard to like keep on top of them and like know what you've covered and what you haven't. Um So maybe just like having a really simple, like color code of like how comfortable you feel with certain lectures and tutorials and like the days you revise them and like whether you've like made your thank you for them and things like that would be quite good. Um The tutorials are also really, really useful. Um So I definitely suggest going to them. Um You don't get too much exam practice in the second year. Um So I think they're quite useful because like often they're really similar style to your exam questions. Um And you can kind of see what faculty like, like to see in our answers um from like the tutorial slides that they release afterwards. Um Also for um like the main topics like neuro endocardial rest, um don't neglect any content from these. Um quite literally anything can come up. Um So definitely do make sure to go over those in detail um in terms of like kind of the extra kind of bit. So for research skills, um I'm pretty sure in second year there wasn't too much teaching on it. Um But I would suggest just going over year one stuff like you don't need to spend too long on it, literally just half an hour maximum, just kind of refreshing yourself on that. Um In terms of pharmacology, which is kind of new, um we just say to learn the mechanism of actions. Um I think you'll find like there's just so many side effects for all of the drugs. Um and it can be really, really hard to remember them more than like not get them modeled. Um So as long as you learn the mechanism of action, you should be able to figure out the side effects and what they do. Um And I think also going to those tutorials is super useful. Um You learn so much from them. Um And also the Pharmacology team, they publish tables on in Sunday as well, which has a really good summary of what every drug does. Um any extra information that you should be aware of. Um So definitely use that to revise. Um Also, don't overlook the pharmacodynamics and kinetics goal that has so many of the basic principles that you'll use throughout the whole entire year. Um And also you could get asked application questions in your exam. Um And I think that goal would be super useful for that. Um In terms of PBB, a lot of people say, you know, don't bother revising it, but um I think they are quite easy marks to pick up. Um And usually they are ethics based. Um So I just suggest just learn it to save time in the exam. You don't really want to be sat in the exam, spending loads of time on these questions trying to think of like responses. Um So just learning it will help you so much. Um in terms of them, um I just say learn it, they're easy marks to pick up um you know, four or five marks that can really help you. Um And in terms of exam technique, um this may sound really silly, but just kind of write your answers like starting from the most basic thing because even though you think it might be stating the obvious, often there are marks for it. Um And I feel like the exams are a bit of like playing a game and you just need to know what faculty like to see, like using the keywords and all of that will help you get like maximum marks. Um And also there is a lot more information this year to learn. Um So just pace yourself. It really is a marathon, not a sprint. Um in terms of what we kind of did for revising BRS. Um after a lecture, let's say we'd like maybe rewatch the lecture if we didn't get anything. Um We then also like maybe just read over the lecture a couple of times and try to maybe write things out like the key points just so we got like a really good overall picture of the topic um rather than like jumping straight into AKI and like memorizing like a bunch of random facts. Um I think like things like Anki or, you know, whatever you may find useful. They're really good to get things actually to stick in your head. But in terms of actual understanding, I think it would be quite good to like, you know, do mind maps or like kind of blurt out whatever, you know. Um So yeah, that's our main tips of BR so I'll go over anatomy. Uh, the main thing is use Rohan's because all of the images that they can bring up uh, in your actual exams will be from that uh textbook. So even if it is, even if it is uh using the PDF or getting it in person from the library or something, if you do go through it, maybe cover up the, the sides, cover up the answers and try and answer, er, er, just basically answer using active recall each of the labels. That's really good revision. And that's something that I did towards the end. I also made like a couple anky cards on those uh just going through the, going through the textbook and uh using those images and I think one of those images popped up in our actual exam. So it is really good uh for upper and lower limb, if you draw out the plexuses, that's really good. That's something that I did. I uh memorized the plexuses mainly by understanding what each uh like, for example, see 345 and stuff like what they do. And it will also help, you know, which nerves, the nerves that eventually become the terminal nerves in your, in your limbs, er which is also really helpful for innovations and you can actually learn the muscles by that way as well. And uh it links to compartments which is important in clinical practice later on like compartment syndrome and stuff which you don't have to worry about but it's good to know. Uh, the main thing I think for anatomy is doing the goals, even if it is after your dr session, it's not ideal. But if you go through the goals, that's great. And we're including the part fours as part of the goals. And, uh, ideally it would be good to do the goals uh, before you get to the DR and then try and do things in the dr that, like, uh essentially optimize your learning. So if that's going through the goal with your, er, group mates, and I think one thing that I really liked doing was trying to get a tutor, like a demonstrator to come to our table because a lot of the times I think in the worst sessions that I had, uh, we just were just sort of standing there trying to figure out stuff, but we actually needed some guidance. So, getting a tutor over is really good. Uh Listen to everything Lydia and Fanny and Fanny say, because they're very good with like, essentially giving you clues for what the exam is gonna be about. And I think especially in the revision sessions over Easter, you'll have two revision sessions, one for A PP and one for limbs. Uh, they did essentially spoil a lot of uh what the exam will be about and gave you a lot of tips. Uh, and I think uh something that Colo did mention as well doing about an hour on most days during your Easter break when you're revising is probably the best way to do anatomy. It's something that I didn't do and I did cram, to be honest, but in hindsight, if I were to do it again, I'd definitely try and do a little often essentially. And that would make your exam stress way. It would just, your, your stress would go down cos you also have LM A and BRS to worry about. Uh It is crammel but do be careful, don't leave it till the last day. Cos it's not doable within a day. Uh As much as it is crammel, it's also very important knowledge and it will help BRS learning the structures of the functions in BRS. Uh But yeah, OK. So moving on to CPA. Um So I remember I was quite scared about CPA. I had no clue about it. Um But it's not too bad, don't worry. Um So you'll have seven stations and also one rest station. Um So one will be a history taking station, one will be unused, an sbar handover, one will be rest. Um Another one, it will be cardio. You'll have another one which is like neuro. So that could either be upper limb or lower limb or cranial nerves. You'll also have one ABDO and one MSK station. Um And essentially, it's not like a full on OSC. You will literally just be asked, could you palpate the carotid pulse or could you auscultate the heart valves? So you will be led through the whole thing. You won't really have to remember like the whole of PIP. Um and after each station you'll get asked a few questions. Um So they could be interpreting imaging, so they could give you like an X ray and be like what imaging modality is this? Um Or they could have um knowledge based questions, but most of this you like, if you revise BRS, you'll be completely fine with that. Um So our main advice for CPA would be use your CPA tutors. Um I'm not too sure if like um forms have gone out for that, but um if like if they do go out then definitely um sign up for that. Um because honestly, I learned everything I need the CPA from my tutors um in the year above. Um and also just use the M CPA guide. Um I'd say this is probably most useful for the knowledge based questions. Um They have it in quite a succinct way. Um So it's really good to just practice there. Um Also just like practicing as much as you can practice on your friends, on your family. Um Even like those people say, just practice on a teddy bear. Um And I think, yeah, that's probably just the biggest like piece of advice. Um They always say like they can tell when people haven't practiced. Um So yeah, just make sure like you get your introduction, like completely fluent, like make sure it's second nature. Um And the examiner will already be like, they know what they're doing. Um Also the e mock is really, really good. Um I think it's around February time if I'm not wrong. Um So nearer the time, sign up to that, that was so useful and it basically was just exactly what the actual CPA exam was. Um the faculty more also happens around then. Um And you have like essentially one of the examination stations and you also have a history taking station. Um I'd say it was pretty good for the history taking station because you don't really get to practice your histories with actors that often. Um But also, even when you're on placement, you can also kind of practice your history taking skills then and kind of make the most of that. Um And also it's just a pass or fail exam. So don't worry about it too much. OK. So for LM A, this is probably the most different from last year. Uh It is now a written exam. It's two hours long and it has around 100 questions for our paper. I think it was around 75 SBA S and 25 VSA queues. They don't ask any Sa Qs. So it is just SBA S and VSA queues. And the main thing about the exam is you're allowed to bring 10, a four pages of notes. Uh so 20 sides in total and we'll talk about that more. But that is essentially key to passing the exam. And I think our tips are do the goals because the content is all they can assess you on everything in the goals is what's gonna be in the exams. So make sure you go through the goals properly. And even if you haven't done the goals because there is a lot of content. So it makes sense if you can't do all the goals, still try and attend all of the tutorials in person because a lot of times, er, Doctor Pinder and other people that make the LMP exam will be giving you clues as to what's as accessible. I think for me, especially epidemiology, which we'll talk about later. Uh, they did give a lot of hints as to what they will assess and what they won't assess because some things are just too difficult to assess for a one mark question. Uh, tips we have, the notes are important and make sure that you uh either make your own notes or use previous years notes but definitely adjust them and modify them to your current curriculum. Co the curriculum does change a bit each year and it might be purpose. So you can't, you can't just use the same notes each year, but uh they do improve the curric each year. So make sure that you use notes and we personally uh cross checked notes from the note bank with the information from our goals to make sure that our notes were up to date. And uh yeah, use, use previously these notes and edit them. And I think if I were to do it again, I would do it as soon as teaching is done. And as soon as a goal is available, going through it, going over it with uh with your notes will not only make uh everything more organized and you won't have to cram anything, but also you'll actually understand your notes and where in the notes it will be. So in the exam, you'll be more calm and relaxed and you'd be able to see. Oh, with this question, I know I have to look at this page, for example. Uh however, as much as it is uh important, you do need to learn the content as well to save time in the exam. You can't just go in there with the notes and no knowledge. So I think what I did was I went through every goal, er, at least once and made sure that I knew exactly in where in the notes they were uh in terms of uh questions because you don't get any mocks. Uh You do get a faculty mo they send out and you also get several med ed mocks. I think there's quite a few for many years. Er, and our tips would be to try and do them early during your Easter break definitely and make sure you do them multiple times just to improve your exam technique because you've never been assessed like this before. This paper is quite unique. Er, but it is very, I think it is quite quick to learn how the exam technique works. So make sure you do the mocks multiple times. And uh also in terms of Ed discussion, I'm not sure I believe with ed discussion. I don't think I posted anything on there, but I definitely looked through the questions that were happening and looked through the answers and maybe commented a couple of times and Ed discussion is really good faculty. Er, the LM A module, er, faculty is really good and they're very on it with answering your questions. So if you have a question, post it on the Ed discussion forum and they will answer that very quickly. Uh We also say uh well, you should do a bit every day during Easter, of course, mainly focus on BRS because it is a bigger exam and it's worth more of your uh yearly mark. I think LMP is about 20% to your overall mark and uh BRS is about 30% but try and do some every day. Uh at least every other day if you could do a bit, that's very good and it'll make sure that you don't cram it. And uh they do say to test uh they'll test year two content exclusively. So I know, in our year, there was a lot of talk about whether year one content was possible to come up. But uh year two content is exclusively assessed, but some things do link to year one. So I think it is worth to just read over the year one, no bank notes quickly, even if it is just, you know, half an hour to an hour, just read over it. So you have an understanding and we add in an extra point of epidemiology. Most people would say this is the hardest module. I think it's the hardest module, sorry subtopic with an L at uh it, it just involves a lot of application and making sure, you know where uh you know, where things are in your notes, you know what to look for. And so you're applying the principles that epidemiology uh teaches you the tutorials are very good. So if you go to those and uh really just absorb what they're saying, uh I think you'll be fine with epidemiology. The rest of LM A is definitely a mixture between factual recall and application. So again, making sure your notes are, are good and you're aware of them is optimal for the exam. So, moving on to cry, um you'll have this in third term. Um and essentially how it's assessed is you'll have to do an oral presentation. So you'll have to put together a scientific poster. Um and that will account for 80% of your marks. Um, you'll also have a peer assessment which will account for 10% of your marks and you'll also get a mark from your supervisor, which will be another 10%. Um, so cry is like, highly dependent on what you get. There's so many different options. I think there's even an option to like go to Wales if you want. Um, and I think you'll hear a bit more about the different things that are available from tan um soon. Um And you'll also get to like, pick your groups and rank kind of what things you'd be interested in doing. Um I think the main thing about this is don't worry about it. Um Just enjoy time three. You know, it, I think you'll have about two weeks of like induction tutorials and things like that just to get you familiar with research and then I think you'll have three weeks um actually doing your research or whatever it is, it may be lab based or what I had personally was, it was more like looking at um like patients and like we were looking at CNA the database with all of like patient information on it. Um And you can also access further opportunities, for example, presenting at conferences, which is quite exciting. Um But don't worry too much if this doesn't happen, you've got so much more time at medical school um to do all of this stuff. Uh So going over CSI it is very similar to last year. So, uh, again, using med ed lectures are very good. Uh, I think that's what I personally did, uh, you know, going over them like a few days before the exam and also using the slides from CSI as well. Uh, they can only assess, uh, what they say in the, uh, tutorials as well as the, uh, lectures and stuff. So, making sure that you go to the uh CSI tutorials as long as they can be. Sometimes you definitely make sure you go to those and uh make sure you don't overthink in the exam. There are definitely questions that sometimes try and catch you out. But if you're careful and you just slowly read the question and you definitely read key words, uh you can definitely answer and score high in uh uh CSI and it's the same as last year. So uh any sort of revision techniques that you uh found that worked last year, make sure you do them for this year. Uh And also for the T app, the main thing I think we talked about was uh it is time pressure to make sure that you're just dedicating who's doing tasks and task delegation and teamwork. That's mainly it. Uh I'm not sure if there's anything else to say about that. It's very much similar to uh first year. So if you did fine with that, no stress. OK. So just moving on to like general advice that we have. Um So I think we just say start early and be consistent there. Um You honestly do not want to be stressing over. Um You kind of just want to be like kind of getting into exam mode. Um Also just revising for EFA as much as you can. Um I know the list for EFA can be huge. Sometimes I remember I was shocked at the first CFA, like there was so many different lectures and tutorials. Um But even if you only revise like half of the topics for the EFA, like that's honestly fine, just make a note that you maybe didn't revise the others as well and then come back to them at some other point. Um But at least, you know, you're just doing whatever you can in the time available for ea um also just going to tutorials. Um the teaching is really good. Um So yeah, just go to them. Um, frequent repetition of content is really, really important. Um I think ideally you don't want to be getting to Easter and you haven't and you, you're like seeing content for the first time. Um I think what really helps things stick in your head and then helps you to apply later on is just keeping like going over as many times as possible. Um Well, that's personally what works for me. Um And also just find what works for you and stick to it. Um I think you like you guys know yourself better than anyone else and just um sticking to what you found has worked for you last year, um would be really good. Um And also just make sure you make time for yourself. Like there is also time for you to do all of your activities and everything. Um So just make sure you look after yourself this year as well. Um And good luck. Ok, thanks for listening guys. Um Do you have any questions? Thank you so much, Colon and Daniel. Um So if anyone has any questions, can you please put them in the Q and A function now? But as of now, we don't have any from there, but we'll just ask you any, some questions that we would have thought we would have had from last year. So, um first question we had was, how do you recommend taking effective notes in, in lectures? Um Well, what I did was um I kind of like printed the lecture slides onto my one note and then like throughout the lecture, um just like, well to be fair, most of what the lecturers say is on the slides. But like if they had any extra bits or things like that, I would just kind of scribble it down next to it. Um And like if I didn't quite catch something, I'd probably just go home rewatch that part of the lecture just to make sure I kind of had everything. Yeah. For me, it was very much the same. I would either just be on my laptop and just type it in the notes section below each slide of the powerpoint or I could also just put, put it on my good notes and then I would just like scribble over it. Like Cloney said, I think something to note is sometimes they will bring in lectures that say way more, that's actually on the slides. But just understand that these guys are often clinicians and often are, you know, they're always on the clinical field. So they're telling you extra information that might not be accessible for second year, but it's still good to listen to just for your own information. But yeah, it's just so I had everything on the uh slides. I would just scribble it in good notes. Thank you. And then going on to the next one. I mean, this kind of links in. But what specific resources did you guys use to revise? Um in general? Um So what I like to do is kind of like turn my lecture notes into an an um and I found that really worked for me. I know some people don't like it. Um So there's also like brains quiz and like notion as well as like a complete different way of revising. Um So I think I just looked at um one of the Note Bank notions and kind of used that and like, I just duplicated it and kind of added in any new content, um, and stuff like that and then if I wanted to, like, switch up how I was revising if I was getting bored of an, then I'd like, go on to notion and kind of test myself with that. Yeah, for me it was quite, er, similar. I would either make my own Anki, which I think is, uh, good because it forces you to think about how to make questions. But it, it was also bad because it does take a long time. So I think, uh I used a lot of the Note Bank Anki, I'm not sure which names I used, I can't exactly remember but I did use a couple. Uh, I used notion and, uh, like said, I think I used someone's notes and just modified it. Uh, oftentimes I'd cross compare it with the slides since they do change over the years. And uh yeah, mainly focusing on active recall. And then if a le was to happen, I would try and like, revisit it the day after or like a couple of days after just so it's like space repetition. So it stays and sticks in your head a bit more. Thank you. Um, we had another question, somebody asked how much assessment of year one is in BRS. So, like, how much do we need to know from year one BRS? Uh I guess they do bang on about like the spiral curriculum. Quite a lot. So I know that, ideally you'll hear a, like, especially the main lectures. They'll say that you do need to know year one. But anything, uh, they assess from the exam will be in the slides somewhere in your year two lectures. So, for example, I think Endo did this a lot. They would add year one slides into their year two lecture slides and they might quickly go over them in the lecture, but that's still accessible. So that's something to consider. Just anything that's in the slides in year two, from year one, it's still accessible. Uh And the good thing is you won't have to like, go back to all your lectures in year one and try and figure that out. So I think my tip would be mainly focused on year two lectures and if anything comes up from year one, maybe just go back to those lectures and quickly read over it. And I think especially Neuro and Endo that happens quite a lot. Yeah, I was gonna say mostly apply for year and endo, I think also M sk the teaching that you get in second year, it's pretty much what you learned in first year as well. Um So I guess you could also just like use some of your first year notes for that if you'd like as well. But I think on the whole just mainly focus on year two content. Cool. Um Another question is there anything different? Oh, no, not that one. Sorry. Um, what is the research section of the RS? Like, and how much do you actually need to know of that? I think you touched on it a little bit. But, yeah. Ok. Um, so I think the research section usually they'll, like, give you some sort of graph, um, and, like, tell you to interpret it or, I think it's about like a four mark question usually. Um And maybe you'll have like one, like one mark question as well. Um I'm pretty sure we only had like one tutorial on research skills. Um So I thought, you know, there wasn't that much I needed to know. Um, but when I went into the exam, I was like, ok, wow, I should have probably looked over first year content. Um So, yeah, I think just because they haven't taught as much research skills in second year, maybe just look over your first year notes. Um But also it is kind of down to like in the moment interpretation of graphs. Um So I guess you could practice that if you wanted to. Yeah, I'd say if you covered the tutorial and you go through the tutorial and uh everything works out then it should be fine, I think. Yeah, going into the exam there was definitely that one question. It was, uh, it was like a graph interpretation question. Uh It usually does come up for a fair few marks, like at least 34 marks and it's easy marks to get if you just uh revise it a couple of times. So I would recommend doing it and mainly whatever's on any goals or tutorials, where is what will be assessed? Thank you. And then another question, how integral is P VB knowledge? Because obviously that came up in first year and also comes up in second year. How much do you need to actually know of that or revise? Uh I believe for our exam, they did say that. So P VB is like its own toggle, it was its own toggle on entity for us. But I believe they said that uh the P VB assessed in the BRS exam could be from the LM A section from P VB. And I think that's what happened in our exam. Uh It was actually not PVV from BRS, it was LMP. So be careful about that and make sure when you revise PVV, uh you go over like LM A PVV as well as BRS PVV in case uh they include the LMP section cos I think a lot of people myself included didn't expect that at all. Thank you. OK. Did you have any? OK. Um And then last question, how did you manage all the content in BRS? Because that's probably the most high content out of everything. How did you manage that? Um So I think the key was just like starting early. So I think you do like Endone neuro quite early on. Um in first term. Um So I think like as soon as like you kind of finish, end it or something, like try to like, commit that to your memory, um like neuro as well. Um So that, you know, and like come back to it quite often. I know it is quite hard, like to manage everything. Um But I think if you learn it well, in the first kind of term, it should hopefully like stick with you until Easter. Um And you'll hopefully need to repeat it less. And then as you go throughout the year and like you get closer to Easter, you could maybe focus on like the topics that you do a bit later on. So I think I want to say like urology and like renal medicine was done a bit later on as well. Um And things like gastro. Um So I think just like making sure that you start early and like kind of getting like the big topics like endo neuro, like cardio, all of them, like kind of committed to your memory earlier on will really help you when you're like trying to learn new content, a lot closer to the exam. Yeah, I think just to add to that, like, totally agree with everything. There will come a point. I think personally, for me, this happened like so many times, but there comes a point where there's more lectures happening and you've got lectures tomorrow and the day after, but you're still behind on the lectures from today and the day before, I think in those situations, try not to stress about it. And obviously it's not a great idea to forget those lectures and just move on. But I think the optimal thing to do instead of constantly being in, catch up and catching up with the previous lectures, maybe just read ahead, read what uh lecture you have next, uh you know, tomorrow or whatever and uh try and just keep up and whatever you can't uh you know, redo after seeing the lecture, maybe just take that during Christmas and try and catch up with it or like Cloy said in Easter, you'll be doing a lot of the topics that uh came up later so you can do that as well, but make sure that you try and keep up. But don't stress if you miss a couple of lectures here and there, it's not uh you always have time to catch up. Thank you so much. I think that's the end of the Q and A. Um What another thing I had to mention was with regards to LMP. So this year we're gonna be doing like a collaboration with LMP Society. So we'll have some up to date LMP notes for you guys um Soon um I can't say a specific date but soon. So yeah, that's something to look forward to because in our year, we had to kind of adjust the LA notes quite a bit but yeah, um then do you wanna just um just before anyone have anything to add Colon or Dan, any last bits of advice? Got everything out. Um So thank you for everyone for joining in. Ok, perfect. Thank you for everyone for joining in. Um I think this is recorded so you can always come back to anything throughout the year like when you start elm up, come back to the elm up advice and everything. Um And obviously with med Ed, we'll do our normal CSI, our normal crash courses. So you have those to look forward to and you probably have acsi coming up. So make sure you tune in to the first tutorial cos they're honestly, they save my life. So yeah, if there's no other questions, we'll end it here today and thank you for everyone who joined. So, yeah.