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This on-demand teaching session is ideal for medical professionals looking to refine their CV building and interviewing skills in order to land their first or next medical position. The session focuses on areas such as practical experience, management of change, leadership and management, teamwork, teaching, and the personal statement. A key takeaway is to tailor personal statements to specific job applications which will help stand-out from the crowd. Get helpful tips and advice from experts on how to create the best possible CV and put your best foot forward during interviews. Don't miss this opportunity and join the session today!

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This webinar is free for all to attend.

We will cover:

  1. Preparation for interviews

  2. Filling in trac applications/ NHS job applications

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Learning Objectives:

  1. Describe the application process for applying to the NHS
  2. Identify the different types of experience to include on a CV
  3. Outline how to accurately describe leadership and management experience
  4. Explain how to create an effective personal statement
  5. Identify resources for gaining further insight into job criteria for NHS placements
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Hello, everyone. Good evening or good morning. Depending on where you are. Uh My name is Rosa's. I'm the co leader of mind the Bleep I MG uh section and I've got lovely speakers with us today to speak about um CV, your CV building and interviews and I won't hold you up. So I'll start off with Amanda. Um and she'll be running us through the beginning of the C V. Yep, it's okay. Hello. Um Hi, my name is Amanda. I'm a junior clinical fellow currently at Stepping Hill Hospital in Stock Board. Um I joined the NHS a couple of months ago and I went through the same process of filling in a track CV application which was quite extensive and I had no help at the time. So I think we with our team today are just trying to make your life a little easier by explaining to you what we picked up along the way um to fill out this extensive CV and hopefully to help you land your first job in the NHS or second, depending on where you are in your pathway. Um Starting off for those of you who don't know or aren't familiar track is application that most NHS hospitals used to recruit doctors overseas. Um It's used by more stressed if not all of them. Um And they have quite an extensive cvs. So we're gonna cover them in two portions. Me and my colleagues are going to divide it. Um I'm going to first start off with more of the supportive information if that helps. Right. So, um one of the first things you're asked you're asked to put in is your practical experience as a doctor and whatever you've done in terms of procedures. So, um it includes procedures that you've done by yourself or under supervision. It could be um simple things like angulations and youtube's catheterizations, things that you commonly would have done in your previous job. Um The, the main thing here is to be honest about how much you've done, um be honest about what you've done by yourself and under supervision. Um The most um the whole idea of this section is to draw attention of the recruiter to what, you know, in, in, in particular with this job. So read up on the job, whether it's a medical job or it's a surgical job, what you would be asked to do in this job and what you possibly have experience with doing before this and asked and use like put in a brief summary of um sorry, my body um is like freaking. Um Yeah, so put in a brief summary of um what you've done so far in relation to what's been asked in this job. So, um this is just another question that was put in one of the job applications which I thought was useful to put on the site. It is in context of this post. Um And reflecting in your own skills and abilities, is there any area where you might seek for the development and support? So, um so yeah, this portion is mainly asked for you to firstly list whatever you've put in before this, in your practical experience, but also to highlight what you would want, um your current recruiter who you're applying for um to help you um in, in this particular job. So you would want to highlight what you've been doing before this and um you know, possibly um sorry, one second, I just my mic is a problem. Yep, sorry, it's my internet, right? So you would want to highlight here um whatever you've done before and supposing it's a, it's an ICU job, for example, or it's a surgical job, you want to draw attention to the fact that you've maybe observed some of the procedures that you would need in this particular job, but also that you would need um maybe some more support, some more supervision. Um The good thing with the energy is is you are expected to ask for help. So, um be honest in this section, try to highlight um things that, you know, um that you've done from your experience, but also to, to show the recruiter that you're looking um to use this job to further your career ahead and that you would need some more supervision in these areas and you might need some more help. Um It will only portray that you want to save doctor. So management of change. Um some of these sections on drug, honestly, when I was applying, they were um sections I've never heard of before. Management of change in this country typically includes an audit. Um I had no experience with an audit before. Um I've never done one. But if you have, um if you have any experience with doing an audit, it's in brief to explain. It's basically when you pick up um a standard uh which you're seeing on your wards, on your clinic at work and you compare it. Uh sorry, you pick up a practice at your water, your clinic and you compare it with the standard that set for that particular practice. Um And then you go around collecting data over a period of time to see if you know that uh particular measure was met. Um If you have done an audit, which would be excellent, you would typically need to highlight um the aim of that audit, the measure of change. Um What were the, what was the data you collected, how you did it and eventually the conclusions that you drew from it and how it helped your whole team or your class. Now, if you haven't done an audit or you haven't had any experience with doing this, um which was basically me when I applied. Um you would need, there could be other things that you could highlight as management of change. So that could be basically anything, any kind of significant change that you bought about um in your med school or otherwise. So it could be in a leadership role. You know, for example, maybe you suggested something to your road, a team about um you know, some of the classes, um maybe you suggested something in a student council forum um or it was in a team. Uh It could be extracurricular, it could be um uh an event you hosted in your college that helped eventually and you bought about a certain change in the practice. Um Any just think extensively about your medical career so far and any, any kind of change that you think you bought about that impacted um on wider, on a wider scale. Um So leadership and management, this is pretty self explanatory. If you read through it on track, it's basically meant to highlight any experience that you might have um in a leadership role or in a manageable position. Um This space specifically is not um it's more to highlight your extracurricular activities, it's not related, it's not, it doesn't have to be to related to medicine. So you can common examples are, you know, if you were a student council member, if you're a committee member, a society member, it doesn't have to be Royal College. It can be the medical bodies in your own countries. Uh It could be um if you were a sports captain, um any organization you had basically and any kind of um meaningful contribution that you had to that team. Um I have put in on the last line, a few parallels to what this would mean if you were in the NHS. So it could be a junior doctors' forum, a wrote a coordinator in your college. Um or if you were part of charities as, as we said before, it doesn't have to be medical. So team work again, um uh any situation that you've been involved in and working as a team, it's not necessarily necessarily limited to professional activities. It could be um again, a team that you worked in, in, in your hospital in your med schools. Um It could be extra curricular, it could be a sports event on a sports team. It could be a charity for a part of it could be um you know, you wrote for, for some, for a site or you were part of a team and just anything to highlight that you're good at teamwork. Um It's one of the most important things in the NHS that we work in an M D T pattern. So most doctors are part of a vital team and you just want to show that you're, you're a team player and eventually that you, you're not just, you know, a doctor making decisions on your own, but you can work with the team. So teaching, um, again, some of these headings seem quite um scary, at least to me they were. So, um, it doesn't matter if you haven't really been doing a lot of teaching before this or you don't have a formal teaching degree if you do, please highlighted here. But if you don't um that there must have been on smaller levels that you've done teaching, that if you were to just look back, you would realize that you actually do have something to put in the section. So it could be, it could start simply as bedside teaching um for, you know, clinical examinations, we've all done that as final your students for the med students below. Um Any presentations that you probably did in, in your departments, in med school, any practical workshops you volunteered and provided your expertise on um teaching outside of the med medical scope is also encouraged. So any time you were a part of any um any organization and you thought um maybe something else, you know, it could, it could be any other lesson that you possibly thought um you could highlight it here. And again, if you have any kind of formal teaching experience, please um elaborate on that. Um and that would fetch you a lot of points. So um the last part is the personal statement, I think um uh we have been discussing that some colleagues at work and even my colleagues in part of this team, and we all agree that the personal statement is possibly the most important bit of your CV. Most of the times when you're applying for jobs, um your personal statement is possibly the first thing that's picked up. Um And then eventually your CV gets passed on to um the hire consultants. Um The most important point to draw out here is to dealer your personal statement to each job application. So um in brief, a personal statement is a, a short summary of you. It's your journey so far through med school and you know, everything that you've done leading up to the point of you applying for this job, um try to be as subjective as possible when you're writing your personal statement. So it's not about, um it's not about what you've done where you studied, what causes you took your already putting that in your C V. Try to be subjective about it. So why you went to med school, what jobs you picked up before this in? What roles were you in? Um whether you were, you know, good at handling situations alone, um Whether you could have decision making because of those jobs, try to be subjective in your personal statement. Um Try to be um very brief um the next thing is to most of the job applications on track, usually have a job specification PDF attached do that job. It's worth downloading that PDF and reading through it. Usually what it entails is it has a essential and desirable criteria for that job. And that's just something that you're gonna read through and see if you fit the job or not. But below that, they have a good description of what the person for that role should look like. So typically, it would say, you know, we're looking for a doctor who can and there'll be a whole summary of that, try to read through it and try to incorporate some of those words in your personal statement that will do two things, it will show them that you've actually gone through the job application. Well, and you've actually gone through the information that they've put on there with so much hard work. And second, it will show that you've actually taken the time to understand the trust. Um The other thing is they also list the trust values in each job application. So most energy s trusts here have a system of a certain value system that they follow. It's usually put in big letters everywhere. So if you're applying for a job, it's not hard to find out what that trust um values in terms of, you know, a lot of subjective matter, it's, it's usually related to patient care. So it, it's worth reading through all this and actually tailoring each applications specifically in your personal statement with these small things that you read online, it would help your CV stand out from all the others that are possibly applying. Um Some of the things are, yeah, use the space given for a personal statement is about 1000 to 2000 words. So try to use all of them. It could be quite hard to write about yourself for that long. I talk about 2 to 3 weeks to write my own personal statement, but it is worth giving it that time because as we said, this is one of the first things that the recruiter looks at when they're checking your job applications. So it's worth putting in a lot of time um into your personal statement. Um Yeah, I think that's it for me. Thank you, Amanda. Good. Okay, I'll be carrying on from uh or building up on what Amanda has already said, right? So my name is Rosa's um a research clinical fellow in Southampton General Hospital and I'll speak a little bit more about the personal statement. So, um if you are, if you, you know, just finish your sort of internship here and then came, you know, came into the UK started F one or F two or this is your first NHS job, then, you know, that is sort of a, a junior personal statement if rather than if you've spent maybe a year or two in the N H S which is of my situation right now. Um And so it changes. So from the first time that I wrote it when I first came to the country, to where to, where it is now, it's a little bit different. So initially, there were things that I did in med school. Um Some of the rotations that I did. Um you know, a lot of, a lot of sport, things that I did in med school where, you know, included in that part, part of my leadership. Um But then as you grow into your NHS role, um these will kind of sort of become, will go lower and lower in your priority list. Um And you would probably be a bit more focused into exactly where you want to go and a bit more focus probably at what job you want. And so your opening statement would be what your current Royal is. So currently I am an ICU fellow, I will say I work at this hospital have been at it for about two years and I will say the things that I know they are looking for. So in there in, as Amanda was saying in the personal statement, if I'm applying for an ICU job, they might say things like I'm looking for someone who is able to um you know, is procedure independent, able to put in CVC line, arterial lines. So that's exactly what I'm going to write in, I'm gonna write that during my time, I see you have spent it doing this and this, I'm independent in this and this because I know that's what they're looking for. So that would be my opening statement. And then if you've got a bit more of the desirable areas as well, so sometimes they'll say desirable. We would like if someone has got M R C P, for example, or if someone has got whatever you include that in, if you've got it included in your opening statement. Um So looking at myself again, I for example, really liked ultrasound, really enjoyed it and have got really good mentors in the hospital. And so I did a lot of ultrasound stuff and I did a lot of ultrasound courses. And therefore that again, in my opening statement, I'm, you know, ultrasound independent, um I can do this and this with it. So that will be the first thing you want to write because your personal statement is, I mean, if you look at any jobs in the UK, how many people apply to the one singular job? There'll be a lot of people and you want to stand out and it's not going to go to the consultant, not all of them, they're not going to be 203 100 applications you'll go through. Hr So you want to make sure that hr during the first paragraph, know that you are suitable for this role because it's exactly what they've been looking for. Right. So that's your first opening paragraph after that, if it says, um, so you can talk about in your second one, what this role will add to you. So again, if I'm applying for, when I see you an aesthetic job, I'll say something along the line. I want the thing that I want to learn from it. So a certain, you know, some people want crest form signatures. You know, you want to, you haven't done your F one F two in this country and you want to be able to apply to call training called medical course surgical training, you still need your quest form. Um So that is what you would say that I want this job because I think this is a really good experience for myself. I think I'll be able to grow here. I think I'll be able to sign off my competency for 123. I plan on this year on applying to surgical training program. I plan on doing a P G set on teaching, like make it very focused on the things that what this role will add to you, your plans. And then if there is try and if you read the personal statement, they've got usually a PDF or two attached. So if you read all of it, you'll find something about either the department or the hospital that's really significant. Um Very useful for myself. I wanted something to do. With research. So when I applied to Southampton, I remember Googling and finding um like the person who hoods that were discovered, like during COVID and everyone was wearing them. So that like the beginning of that was in Southampton. And so I said that I said, I think your, you know, your hospital, there's a lot of research clearly. Um There's a lot of innovation going on. Like I want to be part of that. I want to contribute to that. Um And that's something that they thought was, you know, that's really good that you know that like why do you want to apply to the hospital? Because they ask you these questions, why specifically our hospital? Yeah, I understand that you've applied to 203 100 jobs, but they still want to know why this hospital. So you have to have some sort of answer to why this hospital or this department. Um So some people also say why this city, I haven't found anything against this city. Um So I've put that in my applications, I've said, oh, this city is by the coast, this city is I've got family here. Um Just another extra sentence, there's no disadvantage to it. But you know, you can do or cannot do if you want. But what you should not do in your personal statement is list the jobs that you've done before don't go off. Oh, I graduated in 2018 from this university in this country. I've done five jobs since then and don't, don't do that because you've already done that in your previously, in your previous experience. So coming listing it here is not really going to add anything to anywhere. You just want the things that's going to catch them and where you're going to find that is in their personal statement. So this is a job description that I found on one of the ICU jobs that I remember applying to. Um and I remember reading before like in different CVS, people will write things like history and examination. So when they ask you, what have you done in this job? History and examination rounds discharges, but that's not good enough. You need to really use the web they're using in their job description to describe what you've been doing. So if you look at 100 ICU applications uh jobs, see what you've been doing. So for example, for this is this coordinate and evaluate the suitability for admission to ICU in consultation with the ICU consultant. That is something that I've been doing. So I can use that in my own job description about my previous jobs. Um and look at the wording that they use as well. Coordinate, evaluate identify review, manage proficient prompt. Don't just say I am good at I do this. It doesn't, it doesn't flow well and doesn't look good take I out of any dub description that you might take the eye out and make it into identifying patient suitable for discharge because that sounds a lot better and it sounds a lot more proficient. But yeah, this is just to highlight that. Okay. Next slide. So courses. So a lot of people ask this question, is it necessary to have a lot of courses before coming in? Personally? For myself, I had BLS and I recommend everyone gets BLS because it's cheap and it's a good course to have and it's, it's just, just have it, it's not that expensive, the rest of them. You don't need to if you have the time and the finances to do it by all means, go ahead. Um, but you don't need to and each hospital will have a study budget for you that you can use because these, especially from A L S A T L s, I think L S was 600 maybe pounds 80 LS, same amount. Um, so these are not cheap courses. Uh, if you, if it's, if it's better if, for you to actually get your first in a stress job and then let the hospital pay for it, that would be, you know, amazing. Um, but if I don't think it adds that much to your C V, it makes this election like it wouldn't be the thing that they don't take you for this job for you wouldn't be, um, I think I got mine probably after my third NHS job. So a year and a bit later, um, of actually starting work in the NHS. And obviously that was paid off by the trust and, you know, it was fine. But as I said, if you have got the time and the money to do it, um, other courses before again, all of this is if you've been sort of in the UK for maybe a year, this will be useful, you will take the box for. So in training, when you apply to training for any medical surgical, whatever they'll want, I think it gives you a point. They'll want to see that you've done uh some sort of teaching course. So Oxford medical training do the teach the teacher course and mentoring skills for doctors, which are both, I think again, they're both not that cheap either. Um But they're good courses and they'll give you the, the point that you need for training. So we'll give you an extra point. Um Tomorrow's teachers' was actually a course run by my Dean Ary. So I strongly suggest that when you, when you first come in, find out the courses that you ordinary does. There's a lot of free courses that they do that are really, really good. Um Tomorrow's teachers' was a two day course. So they had one and then six months later, I had the next one. Um It was a really good course I recommend if you are in Wessex. Um And if you're not find out what, what courses your particular Dina Rea does. But in terms of teaching specifically, if you are in, that's just adding to um what Amanda was saying earlier, if you are in a teaching hospital, there will be a lot of undergraduates. Um And so finding out who's teaching them, it's usually that acute medicine. Um and they do rotations everywhere. So finding out who's teaching them, you can easily teaching some tutorials, some bedside examination um and get that in your C V if you haven't before. Um and again, participate in the Oscars as well. So that gives you a certificate that you're, you know, teamwork gives you a uh teaching. Um So that's again, really useful. And then another thing is your actual hospital does, a lot of hospitals do clinical skill training days in like just part of their regular training days. They do it once or twice a year for medicine, for surgery. I remember I did it and it was, I think it was CVC line chest trains, um just, you know, basic clinical skills that are that you need for, you know, beginnings of your career. Um And they do and they give you certificates for it and it's free. So find out where that is in your hospital. Um if you're already in the UK. Um and then these are courses that are personally found useful um potentially, maybe because of my background or I see you, but there are useful courses that will boost your C V for easy things. So, and it will not just boost your CV, really, but just make you, you know, a better clinician. So, ultrasound, guided vascular access or essential radiology for junior doctors. These were really good courses, especially the radiology one because that had all the basic x rays of everything. Um And it was a two day course, I believe it was online. Um again, and it wasn't expensive at all. The middle one fused cart along uh these were probably more I see related. Um But again, if you can find something that you are interested in and do a course on it and get an extra certificate because this gives you a uh sorry, this gives you an extra certificate, the music lung and uh yeah, and research last but not least. Um I think so before I came to the UK, I don't think I had any, any research. I had no research, know courses apart from BLS, I had some teaching. Um But again, I wouldn't say it's necessary to get you your first NHS job. All they want to know is that you're a safe doctor. Um But once you do get here, it is expected that you participate in research and, and the easiest way to do this is to find in your department, the, the consultant group for research, they will always be one in every department. They'll be like, oh yeah, that's the person who publishes all the papers. Um and they'll be the easiest way to get in because you'll be able to understand where research is about the different types of research. Um And it will be, you'll be helping them and they'll be helping you. So you'll be doing data collection mainly. Um But they will be explaining and teaching things to you as well. Uh So I think personally, I think that's the easiest way to get it uh to get your name out there then research fellow jobs, which is like the one I'm doing it at present. So usually they're 50 50 50 clinical 50 research. If you, if that is something that interests you again, if you find uh the people who are all the consultants doing research in your hospital, they'll be able to guide you on first how to get these jobs and, and to improve your because you'll be able to write protocols with the consultants. Get things started like in for researchers from the beginning, not just a research that's already been up and running and you're just data collecting for it, but actually from the beginning coming up with topics or coming up with, we're doing literature reviews, etcetera. Um But the obviously the things that gives points other than publication, period reviewed journals is regional, local and international conferences. So you need to find again the so you can start local and then build your way up but find your department or your specialty and they'll have local regional conferences. Um And it'll be, it doesn't have to be something big. So I remember my first audit presentation was in the, the Wessex trainee anaesthetic trainees. Um So it was, it was very small, um you know, look regional conference. Um And it just had the anesthetic trainees and some consultants. It wasn't a big, like a big conference, but it was the first one I presented that. Um And obviously, if you've already been in contact with a consultant and have managed to write up some simple things, you can present it in, in one of these conferences. So if it's surgery, if it's medicine, there are regional conferences and local conferences happening all the time. So from the beginning of the year, you need to find out what dates these are and be able to send off your uh abstracts quite early. And then they do, sometimes they'll send it in for a poster presentation or a presentation and sometimes there's some prizes for these things. Um So that's something to look out for like from the beginning of the year, if you set your intentions on finding out the proper dates, um you'll be able to find out where that is. Um And then, so the associate P I um if your hospital is a sort of a big research hospital, they would normally be in touch with the NIH are, which is the big research company basically in the UK. Um And an associate P I is basically a study that's already running new recruiting patient's to it. So you are having basically lots of meetings and um going to patient's or family members and consenting them about the studies. We need to obviously know the study really well and um and, and distribute that between your department. So, you know, let people know in the department that were recruiting people do this study. Uh If any patient is eligible, please please let us know and let yourself like known. Um, and it's a really good certificate to have at the end, just like sort of the ultrasound, physical and long that I was doing. Um, it's very good if it's not available in all the trusts. But I think a lot of them do because a lot of them do research. Um, but if you've got, if you have managed to do a lot of research, don't list all of it. It's important to say what you've learned from it more than just what it was. Um, so, yeah, uh, just to think, um, that's like about employment gaps. A lot of people have been saying to me, oh, I've got a 10 year employment gap. Um, I'm probably not going to get a job because of that and that's not true. Be honest about your employment, employment gap. Lots of people take years out for exams, maternity leaves, even careers outside of medicine. And then, you know, years later they decided they actually want to come back. Um, so it's not, it doesn't make you any less of a doctor. You are a doctor. It doesn't matter how many years has passed since your last practice. Uh, so don't let that discourage you continue to apply to as many jobs. It's trust me, it's not why, um, things are not working. You just didn't apply to enough. I think I've applied to about 3 50 to 400 jobs by the time I got the first job. So just keep applying. But things that you can do to improve your CV, once you are, there is to do a clinical attachment. Um And we've spoken about clinical attachments in our last, we've been also check that out, but once you do it, get a really good reference. So make friends with like 23 consultants. Um and let them write you a good reference and that will be all you need. And I think that's me. I'll pass on to Mirani for interview preparations. Let me just get the slide. Sorry, one second. That's okay. Um Hi, my name or any, I am a FCE trainee, I in the Oxford scenery. I'm gonna go through interview stuff. So I'm gonna start with going through some of the general principles and then more into how the format works. It seems to be a very similar format regardless of grade, but obviously the further you are who are up or the feather you, the more senior you are, the more the questions are a little bit more detailed, a little bit more specific to your role. Um Yeah, so the general principles, it's kind of the same for any interview or any formal chat, I guess. So it's dressed smartly. No one wants someone to tie up to interview in tracksuit. Bottoms of the who do act professionally. Don't be sitting there cheering garm. Don't be sitting there with your legs splayed across the couch or lying down. It's just not a nice way to present yourself. Um Come to our to, it's a huge thing. They don't like if you're late, they only have 15 minutes to speak to you. And if you're five minutes late, we've already bitten into five minutes of that time. If you are running late for any reason, I think I always say the best way to go about it is to email your H R or the recruitment or whoever has sent you the into you link or um and let them know that I'm running late and this is the reason and apologize. They're usually quite understanding, especially during COVID with all the technical difficulties people are facing, but it's just good practice to let them know. Um smile and I contact, I think it makes such a huge difference. It may seem like the most, the smallest thing. But I think when it comes to into these people are, aren't looking, they are looking at whether you're a safe doctor, obviously, but they're also looking to see, do I see myself working with this person every day? Are they going to be a good colleague? Are they someone that I'm going to get on with? Because at the end of the day, they need to put up with you for a year or six months or whatever and you need to be able to cut with them to make having smile, making eye contact just makes a huge difference. I think it makes you more approachable as a person and it shows how you present yourself to your patient. So, but make a difference, confidence. I think nervousness is such a huge thing when it comes to interviews or anything. Like I'm terrified at the moment. Um But coming across is confident, the whole the posture she says straightening up and realizing that I've been hunched over my screen. Um open like open body language comes across as someone who yes, I know I'm a doctor. I know I deserve this job. You're you're gonna give it to me. But there's a fine line between confidence and being arrogant or over cocky. So with the minute you step over, it can be a little bit, it can be a little bit concerning. But I think as long as you're not going to be unsafe when you come across your answers and you're not going to pretend like, you know, everything in the Oxford Clinical Handbook and Dictionary, you should be okay, but coming across is knowing about yourself and knowing the job and understanding the role just shows that you've researched the job and you're prepared for this interview and it just gives off good impression. Um But yeah, so those are just the general principles and then to be um in general, the format is usually about 2030 minutes. You have a uh probably either one or two main interviews who are clinical staff and one non clinical hr member who will be there as well. Um I have found that most have been split into two general questions. So I'll go through each of these sections in a minute and two clinical scenarios, maybe one, maybe two and an ethical scenario. Um And then they finish with time these ask questions with all of this. It's I think the thing to remember is they are examined, they are interviewing probably a fair few people and their probably asking everyone very similar questions. So it's about standing out and just showing why you deserve this job over everyone else and why you're the right fit for this job. Um So it's about being prepared. It's what we spoke about earlier in terms of your job specification, your person, sophistication, it's going through and highlighting if you're a little bit OCD, I'm underlining or whatever, all these keywords I called them buzzwords that they're looking for. Um You looking to see if you're answering them. And I always write them down on a post it note and had them written, like stuck on my laptop so that I knew that I should be taking off those words when I'm answering my questions. So if we go through the general questions, these are usually the questions that you prepare for and have like a formatted answer. Don't sound robotic. I think it's really easy to sound robotic when you've prepped an answer. But um I think the more conversational the tone is the go less. They, you sound like you're reading off the screen. Um So I think to, you should read your CV and your application, they've probably looked at, they know a little bit about you, but they're not going to remember everything. So it's up to you to pick out those key points that are really good about you. So sell yourself. Um And it seems direct score in like I said, like I was talking about these keywords, no one's going to sit there and ask you, oh, what makes a good team member? Tell me about the time you worked in a team. Tell me about the time you showed good leadership. They don't have time to go through everything that they want from you. They're going to ask you why do you want this job? What makes you a good fit for this job or tell me about the time you worked on the team. And for all of those, it's, it's the same special occasions. It's an indirect Skowron matrix. So if you, if they're asking you, why are you interested in this? So say we said I see your job, why are you interested in that? I see your job. I'm interested in this job because of this skill, this skill and that skill. And I have shown that I've developed these skills in this environment when I worked as part of a multidisciplinary team or I've worked as part and, and had to make decisions or, and delegate tasks as a leader or whatever. So, in that two sentences, you've ticked off three or four things that they're looking for without them having to ask you if that makes sense. Um So it's about, aren't formatting your answer in a way that ticks off more than just the question asked though without rambling as well. Um But yeah, so I would always say take, spend maybe a minute to two minutes max power answer because anything else they're gonna, they wouldn't, they may stop you. But again, don't be discouraged if they stop you, they just need to get to the next question. Um But yeah, so it's a minute to two minutes and you can say, yeah, okay. That's it. I'm not say anything else. I have a tendency just to talk and talk till I'm like, okay, I should stop but I talk and talk and I'm like, I don't know what else to say. So um I think that's something I learned from with my interviewees interview pack. Um Yeah, and so example, questions are why are you interested in the job? So again, it's about specifics about the job. It's specifically about the truck. So what interest, trust, the trust values bring those in or something about the area? Um I think my friend got a job in Nottingham and they have trams. She was like, yeah, I think nothing is great because of trams. It was the most ridiculous thing, but the consultant also loved trams. So they had a couple of minute conversation on the trams. It's about connecting with people on a level outside of just this tunnel vision. And it'll be tell me about the time you worked in a team or tell me about the time you showed leadership. I think one of the questions I got asked is tell me about time you experienced failure. Um And we made a funny story about it just because these little things are what make you stand out. They make they, they'll when they go through the interview after that. Oh yeah. She's the one who walked into a glass door or she's the one who likes trams. So they remember you and that makes you a little bit more like, oh yeah, maybe we should work with him or her. Um But yeah, so that's the general questions and then if we go on to the clinic stories. So the main portion of the interview is going to be the clinical scenarios, essentially, it is dependent on your grade. Um but they just need to make sure that as you're coming into the N H S, um whether it's your first job as a doctor or your 10th job as a doctor, whatever your grade is that you're working safely, the NHS is a lot of bureaucracy and it's got a chain of command when you're coming in, you need to be able to see a patient access if they are unwell acutely and start a management plan in something that is within your remit. If you're working as an F one doctor, there are certain or unfounded f to doctor, there are certain things you're not allowed to do because it's outside of your grade you may have. And so you would never put in a chest drain for a pneumothorax. You can say ultimately the management town would be a chest drain. However, think within your grade would be to do a needle decompression. But if he's not done that, you, it's very, it's completely fine to say the management plan would be a needle decompression. As I've not done one before, I would ask for someone seeing you to come supervised. They love this whole escalate to my senior. Ask for advice. It's a massive tick in their box because you know what you can and what you can't do and what your ability is. And that's a huge part of working safely as a doctor in the NHS. Um, it's a huge part of working safety as a doctor full stop. Not just in the NHS, to be honest. Um, but yeah, I think so for doing that but they don't easily able to assess an acutely on my patient. Um, when you're answering questions, um, you have to pretend that we're not, you don't have to pretend these people don't know you, they don't know your thought process. They don't know if you were a distinction at university or a first class and quite frankly, they don't care. Um So you need to justify what you're saying. If you're saying I'm going to start patient on fluids, you have to say, oh yeah, I'm gonna start patient on fluids because they are hypertensive so that they'll bring their BP back up and check up there. Don't process debatable. The usual assessment method is 80 assessment. I'm not going to go into too much detail on the 80 assessment just because we do have a talk coming up. So mind a little promo here. Um But yeah, I definitely go through your 80 and the key principles within the 80 years reassessing once you start an investigation, but once you start a treatment plan that's going back reassessing, making sure it's made a difference before you move on a kills, before BB kills before C C kills 40 for those of you who don't know 80 it's the airway breathing, circulation, disability and exposure. But yeah, we are going, we're doing a talk on it soon. So, um, joy, I'm sure it'll be, I hope it will be usefully. Um, the questions they may ask about differentials and inertial management plan. No one's gonna expect you to say. Oh yeah, they have appendicitis. So I'm going to start doing an appendectomy. You're not going to do an appendectomy. You're going to keep them know by mouth starting on fluids, maybe give them some antibiotics. Um send off a group and save. So it's the initial management plan and then you'll escalated to Xenia because without a consultant knowing or a registrar honoring you're not going to cut someone open. Um So yeah, I talked about being a safe doctor escalating early and clear. Documentation is the most important thing. I think when it comes to these kind of scenarios, it's like I keep going on about and I know I'm repeating it like a broken record, but it's so important. You work within your remit and documentation in the NHS especially is a huge thing just because of legal issues and stuff. And I know where to, where I, where I studied. I didn't, documentation was important but not, it wasn't, it wasn't harped on about like it is here. So you don't say I will document that too. Discussion's my 80 assessment and all that and mentioning it isn't, it may well need some points, but it's definitely not going to lose you any points. Um And then I've said clinical scenarios. So common scenario is that um they asked about our shortness of breath, headache, chest pain, abdominal pain, collapse, reduced DCF. There's like there are other scenarios that may come up. So actually, it's observances, marriage and management of bleeding shock, etcetera. But these ones are the ones I've come across. Um So when I was preparing for my interviews, I basically and a little bit of a nerd. So I created a book for myself about all the differentials for each of these and what the telltale signs where like a thunderclap headache or left sided chest pain radiating to the arm and your, it's stuff, you know, but it's also stuff in the heat of the moment. You're like, oh my God, what is, what is a high crp mean? You get panicked and that's completely natural. Um I think it's really important that people remember it is really natural to get nervous and have a little bit of a freak out. And I think if you don't, you're a better person than I and please give me some advice. Um But yeah, so things aren't questions that I've had are the nurses lied to you to review a patient who's complaining of new shortness of breath. Um Patient's come into a and E with abdominal pain. How do you approach? What are your differentials. Um It's some might be specific to your department, to your role. So it may be that if you're a senior doctor, your junior has leapt you with this situation, what advice would you give them? Um And yeah, or if you're doing surgical, expect to have more surgically inclined question. So maybe DVT Pulmonary Ambulance um base um if it's medical, probably more medical questions. Um I think everything's medicine, but I've always said to form out my clinical scenarios. I start off with the basics and this is not because I think it's going to win me any point. It gives me a minute to take a breath and go okay. This is what I'm thinking. So I thought I'm gonna wash my hands and then it's on the right PPE I'm going to introduce myself and then I'll start my assessment, whether that's an 80 assessment or a quick history from the patient. Another thing I say is I'll take unbearable history from the nurse. It shows that you're including members of your M D T and that shows the, it's the MDT and they probably know the patient way better than you do. And um yeah, people tend to like that and then I start my clinical assessment, which is where I usually say history and then I'll go through my 80 and when I say I go through my 80 I go through my 80 very, very thoroughly because sometimes it just means that they have no other chance to ask me any other questions, which may be a good thing because maybe I won't know the answer and I, I know how to do an 80 year assessment. The other thing is if I know how to do an 80 they know that I can be safe and I can assess that if someone's BP is tanking. I'm in trouble where someone's really tacky Kartik or if they're obstructed, I know what to do. Um How I prepared was the Oxford Clinical handbook. Um I used it for the foundation program. It was really useful. I think it explains in 80 it gives you the key symptoms. Um It kind of gives you the initial management can that they're expecting and a lot of people tend to use it even at work. I used NHS webinars again, many promo here during the mind of like webinars. Um But there's loads of webinars from other people that are online like six PM series and there you are also really useful just with different systems in different management's. I practice, practice, practice, practice, whether it's scaring yourself in a mirror and talking to it like an idiot, whether it's um speaking with your friends or other colleagues. I mean, it's likely help unhappy. Just I can, yeah, we can figure out, set out some systems. I know there's online. Um There's um Instagram platforms that offer um interview prep and C P prep as well. So just researching and buying them, they are free of charge as well. And then Google, I googled my, with my restaurant. I interviewed scenarios. I used, um, mind the bleep, the website I use geeky medics. Ask you stop and I would read and read and get myself into a tis away then watch Netflix for an hour or maybe more. Let's not be on, let's be honest here and then I come back but it had those intervenes alive and practicing and I'm and repeating it and getting bored of it meant that when it came to the interview, I knew how I was gonna say and what I was going to say. So, yeah, that's how I prepared. Um After snore is, I think the apple snore is there usually left to the end. But they're one of the most important part of the NHS. And see, uh because I think clinical medicine is taught very well across the world. Whereas ethical scenarios differ from country to country. So the NHS has its own umbrella of scenario is that you may never have experienced to practicing for, this tends to be a little bit more difficult. Um So I think the first thing I'd say is breed that good medical practice, the G M C send everyone um It has things about social media, has things about treating family and friends, it has things, it just has things about the, wouldn't even think you need to think about and all of a sudden it's there in black and white and it does help. Um, it's a bit of a long read. It's a bit of a trudge through but I think I just read those, like, bold headlines so I read those so I kind of was aware of what was going on. Um, S A T question banks are really useful as well. They've got them for the foundation training and when you go in to apply for specialty training, the MSRA has an S A T question bank that I wanna see sucks the living in the daylight about me, but that's fine. We have the 80 is, it's got questions. That's kind of the answers. Explain how you should technically approach a situation within hospital or uh situation and it would help you base your answers around those common scenarios, breaking bad needs. Everyone uses the spikes um method um that everyone uses, you'll have your own way of breaking that bad news. It's just making sure the patient understands and or patient's family understand, gaining consent and explaining things in layman's terms. Um uh dolls. So if anyone who doesn't know is deprivation of liberty, it's people who don't have capacity as is the next point. Um The amount of capacity at my mental health assessment, putting a doll's in place so that patient's can't deny treatment or um yeah, but it's also making sure that you say that these things can be fluctuating. So a patient may not have capacity today, but tomorrow has capacity. So it's reassessing. It's understanding the family situation involving the next of kin. If family have a patient is consented previously, it's about deescalating situations as well and being safe for yourself. Your patient and your colleagues, um difficult colleagues is also a really good one. Um I say it's a really good one, but it's one that comes up quite a lot. It's saying, I think one of my questions was um you are, you're an f one you're working with a course surgical trainee who comes to award around with the reg does the words where he comes and shows off with the red for an hour and then disappears and doesn't do any ward work. How do you approach? Um I have a three pronged approach for this and I think that's how I use all my answers for any of these hardly approach situations is I would speak to the person directly ask them what's going on to make sure that I'm not missing anything like they're doing their in theater or they're doing outlier work. Um And I explained my situation. I've tried to compromise with them. If this doesn't work, I would then escalate it to my senior. Um So it's asked mediate and then escalate would be the three pronged approach to difficult colleagues, alcohol intoxication. So if colleague comes in spelling of alcohol, how do you approach I think one of the things that when I was doing it, I realized it was really bad to jump straight into accusing someone. It's always good just to ask them, someone might have just had a really bad experience on the train, had some poor, a bottle of wine on them. These things happen as variously, maybe they do happen. So it's just like asking them did something. Are you okay? And it, and then again, this mediating, coming to a conclusion together or escalating. And I think in all of this, the most important thing to say and you should say, whenever you get a chance is patient safety is how amount patient safety comes first. So as long as my patient is safe, um you need to do whatever. So a person working under the influence of alcohol or drugs is not safe for any patient, even if it means that starting levels are good, all the voter coordinators are going to love you just because they have a name on the list doesn't mean it's safe for patient. So you have to escalate and get them out of that situation. Um Social media is another thing that I think is huge at the moment with the rise of tiktok and Instagram influences um and especially medical influences, showing days and lives at work. Um And they may ask you to how do you approach the situation? So it's ensuring that patient confidentiality um isn't kept and you can obviously you can record your day at work as long as you're not showing any patient bases, any patient details. If you're showing your shoes, it doesn't really matter. But if you're showing a patient's wristband, that's the problem. Um And yeah, so I think also another thing people mention is talking in lifts. So we all have this handover sheet with all your patient's names and details. And it's great when you're taking off your ground and then you go to Costco because your consultants going to buy your coffee and you leave it there. That's a problem. Or you're speaking to your consultant in Cost about patient Narrow Smith in bed six. And next to you at the table is Mary Smith neighbor who doesn't need. She was in hospital. You've breached confidentiality. So how do you approach? It's about the duty of candle. It's about being honest and apologizing and um accepting your mistakes and learning from those mistakes. I think reflective practice is a huge thing in the NHS. And I think it's a really good thing. It's when you've made a mistake, it's understanding way you've made the mistake and learning from those mistakes. So that's something mentioning things like that in these ethical similarities is just really going to help. Um But yeah, I think that's it for me. Uh Everyone has any questions? Lovely. Thank you. Um Let's see. Does anyone have any questions for us? Um You know, some people put stuff in the chart. Um So this is recorded so you can come and watch it at any time. Um I think you will, I think by the end of today, just as this ends, it will uh probably upload. Um Any idea when the hee seminar will be held? Not sure yet, probably sometime next month. Um So I can't share the slides but it will be in the presentation when you watch it, the feedback forms for teaching. Um So if you do any kind of teaching anywhere, it's, you can either create your own feedback form. Um But a lot of the website, I think the I M T ones, there's already ones available PDF versions of them online. Um And it's really, really useful to have that feedback because otherwise, not that they don't believe that you've done the teaching, but it means that you've looked at what the people have said about you and your teaching and then you've reflected on it and went and improved. Um I was just going to add because I, I saw that comment a bit a while before. Um You could just Google GM, see teaching feedback forms and it'll take you to the G R C T P portfolio feedback forms. Um That's the official portfolio the I MGS use and that's they have a feedback form which Azra said there's a PDF attached. So if you just downloaded, you can get a form or you can duplicate the same questions and make your own feedback form. Um It's just as long as you have it on paper, as you said, it's evidence that you've done it. Never. Yeah, basically. Um, any other questions, I'm not sure how many candidates apply. But if, if personally, if I'm applying, you know, I think I've applied, as I said to about 350 to 400 jobs to get my first job. You can imagine how many people would be applying at the same rate. Um So it would be quite a lot of people, a lot of them will go through hr and they won't even make it to the consultants. Um So that's why your CV or your track application really needs to stand out so that they do send it to the consultants. It was muted. We'll just leave our emails at the bottom for anyone who's got any other questions they want to email or ask us about and, and thank you all so much for joining. That will be the end of this or dinner. Oh, sorry. There is one more question. Uh Do you need research experience for clinical fellow jobs? Nope, you don't need research experience. Um I think most people, especially when you're starting out to do in your level. A lot of us didn't have any before we came to the UK. So here is, here is where we got all of our research experience. Four, no problem. Perfect. Um So can you guys just leave your emails at the bottom before we leave in the chat box? Yes, in the chat books. Lovely. You're welcome guys and we'll see you on our next webinar. Thank you so much. Oh God, sorry. This uh two questions came up. Clinical attachments done within a trust help in getting jobs. I think it does. I think if you've done clinical attachment within the trust, it's always good just to go down to hr and have a little chat with them going. Oh, hi. Um Do you have any job openings that you know, so you're talking a little bit helps, especially if you, if you, you know, if you did the clinical our session last two weeks ago was about clinical attachments and the the girl who the doctor was doing it actually got her job through that. So you come into your clinical attachment. You do. I think about four weeks you are always available, helpful, kind willing to learn etcetera and you talk to them about getting a job and for most of the time, most of what I've heard is, yes. Uh I got my job, I got my job through an attachment as well. Um And it didn't really help when I was there, but when I applied through track um and I, as you know, we mentioned in your personal statement, you do include these things. So I did mention that I was a clinical attaching that trust before and then they actually brought it up during the interview. So somewhere the other, it will help you if you've done an observer ship in the trust. Yeah, we'll say, can we apply to stu 10 S T even to, even as an F Y one depending upon job description? Um Do you, I'm not sure I understand the question as a. Do you mean you have more experience than a phone level? But you've applied to everyone grade or did, what did you think of our knee? Listen, I think you can apply for ST one grade jobs on trap. It's just you have to meet the criteria for them to consider you. So you can technically apply if that was the question. And if you want an S T one job in training, you'll need a craft form final so that you can be an F one or, or you can be a foundation doctor as long as you have a quest form. Find off, you can apply for specialty training applications like special training. I don't know that, answer your question or not. Uh OK. Yes. She said that's what she meant. Yeah, fine. Um In that case, yeah, you can definitely do that. Um So the seminar regarding clinical attachment, you can either find it on our website, on mind the belief um you'll find some of the webinars there or in middle itself. So it will have um if you go on videos and all organizations and actually find mind the bleep, you find the uh the MG series. Um I don't actually have it downloaded the feedback link, but you will find it in the, as a PDF in the, the either I M T website or which one were you talking about Amanda? Uh just Google G R C T P portfolio feedback phone. Or if you can just Google GM see teaching feedback phone. That's the first thing that shows up M C feedback home or the G R C P website, I think um horse April Foia also has one. Yeah. And they, so the portfolio is obviously you have to sign up if you are, if you are wanting to save things in it, but they do have um like just PDF versions where you can just um you could just download things and have a like a paper portfolio basically, but you have, you have the feedback form in there as well. So several, you have the several ones you can choose whichever one you like or just make it on or make your any more questions. Okay. So like every time I say, let's end this um well, you know, I get questions. Um lovely. So if you guys got any questions, you've got our emails in the chart so you can email us at any point um or see us in our next webinar. Thank you so much. Yeah.