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Hello wait until someone comes in until like okay, so if no one comes in by like 6 45 you're more than welcome to leave If you could just give a bit of like an explanation of what your favorite thing is about your bsc, so have something for the recording that would be fantastic. Thank you ok fab mhm okay, so nobody is here yeah, um but just for the recording my favorite thing about the b. S. C. Is basically the variety of different classes and activities that we get to do over the year um So our lectures and classes and workshops are kind of split into different disciplines, so we cover philosophy, we do literature, we do history sessions, um We have film sessions um We have a bunch of workshops throughout the year, so we've had like poetry, workshop, sculpture, workshops, art workshops, we've spent time going to museums is like part of our classes and walking around exhibits um and then lots of sort of group discussion like in all of our classes, um We've also done law and we've also done ethnic sessions. Um So yeah it's just like a massive variety of things we're learning something new like every single day, um but I also all linked together really nicely as you sort of progressed through the year, um and you get exposed like a lot of different ideas and different ways of thinking that you haven't really thought of before. Um So, yeah I absolutely love the variety of this bsc, and I would really recommend really recommended that anyone who likes getting a taste of a little bit of everything that's kind of how I found that this year. It's like it's all dipping my toes into all of these different areas where I have a bit of an interest and I get to find out a little bit more about it and it's all like in relation to medicine, so it is even though it sounds like it's not a scientific of some other bs cs, you're getting like a really nice, well rounded view of like a lot of different aspects of medicine, and I think that's something really special about this course. Hey Hi hey, um So what questions do you have about humanity's oh um So, I think I'm 90% decided on this one just looking have you enjoyed it like uh yeah, 100% yes um I was I was in your same position where I was like basically pretty sure this was the one I was going to do um and it's everything I imagined it to be and more to be honest. Yeah is there anything specific you wanted to know about it um Like kind, we don't actually have very much information about it like generally, I'm really interested in like the schedule mm quick. I've heard it's quite heavy on contact ours, but it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing because everything is so interesting but like is that True. Yeah, I, I I agree with that essentially um so the way our timetable works is that it's most days you're kind of doing like a half nine till four like a 10 to 4 um like most days the week finishing early on wednesdays um so like at 12 and the week is normally split up into different classes, so you might have like a morning on like a philosophy, lecture or philosophy like seminar, and then like an afternoon of like literature or something um and the way that the sort of causes club over the years that we spend about six weeks covering topics about the body, three weeks about the mind and then three weeks about death and dying and then within each of those sort of modules, recovering philosophy, we have film sessions, you have literature sessions, you have history sessions, you do some law and ethics, and then there's also workshops or interspersed throughout um the year, so we've had like art workshops on like poetry and sculpture and like visiting museums um and all and like guest speakers and things coming in for like a specialist sessions and specialist topics um related to each module, so that's basically how the weeks normally like a mix of all these like different things. Um So, yeah, it's a lot of hours compared to perhaps some other bs cs, but what you're doing is like a massive variety and it's quite fun um At least that's how I found it. Thank you, you know that that's kind of what I thought it would be like um and not I'm not saying I wouldn't come but like how strict are they with attendance is there, an online option or not really um Sometimes they do run online sessions um So I feel like for us this year. Quite a few of our history sessions have been online um and it's also kind of dependent, sometimes like on train strikes and stuff like that, so they can be flexible like if they need to be um If there's a reason that people can't get to campus, they don't particularly like lateness too much they like people being on time, yeah but yeah if you if you can't come in, like they check the absence forms quite regularly um and there and what I would say is that all of the teaching staff and professors are incredibly supportive and incredibly friendly um And they they do generally sort of like care about you and get to know you like as you're on the course, they know us on first name basis like you know and they'll like spend time like talking to you about ideas and things um like about your work and what you find interesting about the course. So it's quite um I found it to be quite a wholesome environment, yeah it sounds especially as there's like I don't know if this is the same in your year, but there's only like 18 places, so it's super small yeah, It's really small this year actually had a few more we've got about over 20 people this year, but we have quite a few extra Colonel students this year as well, you've had about seven or eight external students, which has been quite nice because you get to like to meet some different people, yeah well from different uni, so that that in itself is also quite interesting, but yeah it's quite a, I think it's like a nice amount of people like it's enough to have a discussion, but you can still get to know everyone. Yeah no absolutely some of this sounds really nice. Um It's also interesting because you get to choose your own like topic at the end. Yeah Yeah there's such a massive scope of what you can cover for your project um that's the sort of uh turn that we're in now that we're just starting our sort of project module um And you get a few workshops earlier in the year like we had ours in december and january on. Like looking at past examples and like getting the chance to sort of discuss ideas like in the class and with the professors um and they're like really good. It's sort of like responding to emails and stuff. If you have like questions or like have ideas you want to run by them. Um So it's quite it feels like I think initially I found it quite daunting like having to sort of pick a topic out of thin air, um but I feel like as you go through the course, you kind of like pick up, pick up on the stuff that you find interesting and then you can kind of like use that is to kind of generate ideas then for a project and they'll like really try and help you with that. Yeah is it like um can you like just write a dissertation or how, does it, how does the project look. Um So the project is like a 7000 word s. A, essentially or like thesis, yeah and then you also have to produce like a piece of artwork alongside the artwork isn't graded, but you get to reflect on it as part of your feet is essentially in the process of making it okay. Um At the end of the projects module, all the artwork everyone's maid gets displayed in the Life Gallery and Imperial um And you have there's like a little party basically where you can invite your friends and family to come and look at your artwork and professors are there, yeah, I guess it's very wholesome yeah, yeah, and I would also say even if you're not like the most rt like, if you are really arty person, then you will absolutely love it anyways um. And even if you are like they, it's not sort of, I focused on like your ability to do artwork. It's more sort of allowing yourself to be creativelive, okay, yeah, yeah for sure um I just think you if I have any other questions oh, yeah, do you think if I put it first, I'm likely to get in or is it like, was it oversubscribed, is it like competitive. I don't think it's ever competitive Really, I think yeah I think I mean I put it in my first choice and I got it um and I know some people who had it as their second choice and got it because they didn't get their first yeah, so I feel like it wasn't one where like for internal students um. It well. I don't think it was too difficult to get a spot for the people who put it as their top choice, So I feel like if you put it as your top um Yeah I I put it as my top and I felt like I was guaranteed to get it essentially because I just feel like there's not many people who who pick it um but yeah because it's so nice. I I I think it takes like a particular kind. I feel like you kind of like some people have done it like never having done humanities before. Um some people go into it, cause they already sort of like are like one of the humanities and they want to sort of take a break from medicine, um but yeah it's quite a different and sort of out there. bs cs, I do get that is and also I think sometimes the idea, sort of essay writing um can be quite daunting um So, I think that's another reason why why some people don't end up picking a course like this for sure oh. Actually that um gives me another question how much philosophy knowledge do, I have to come in with realistically because my school didn't teach anything like anything it could be zero, It can be zero. I didn't know any philosophy um when I, when I came into this course like and the philosophy professor that we had greg, he's super nice um and it's the same in every subject like they assume like zero based knowledge essentially and they do kind of like ease you into the topics perfect um Yeah, so it's absolutely fine you don't need any sort of prior knowledge for any of the topics in the bsc. That's really really good yeah. Um One last thing is it quite hard to do well. I know like people sometimes choose to bsc based on like likelihood of getting a first and not necessarily trying to do that, but at the same time, I do want to do well like is it impossible or is it like do people get first on the course. I think it's a totally fair question um There's definitely people who get first on the course, um I wouldn't say that it's easy just because you have because you cover quite a few different disciplines and quite varied sort of course work, but at the same time we were quite lucky in that we get assessment workshops for every assessment, we do where they kind of tell us what they're looking for in the assessment um and again, they're very supportive if you have questions about what you're supposed to be doing or how to answer a question like they will try to help you, um so I found it I found it quite like all right so far at the moment, I would say january is a bit more intense when it comes to course just because your deadlines are a bit tighter, but it's definitely it's definitely doable and it's definitely like it's definitely something you can do well and if you put the sort of like time and effort into the, into the work essentially and into the assessments, yeah so it can be kind of as intense as you want it to be really yeah, yeah, exactly yeah if you want to aim for a first, like you can like really go like all in like be really like prepped and prepared like for your reading and like the assessments um and it's absolutely possible, but if you also just kind of want to take the year to chill and you know just kind of like take a break from that sort of intensity, then this is also the perfect course to do that too okay that that's quite nice um so when you say reading how much reading is there, um so it varies for a few for different subjects. Most of the reading is probably for like literature, law, and philosophy, um So the reading for those can be a bit it can it can be quite a bit but um if you kind of like spread it out like the way that you do, it is doable um Yeah and then for stuff like history and things, you might be asked to like watch a video that the vest has made and then like read like a couple of sources or something, but it's always it's always achievable and they are also understanding that if like for some reason you can't do the reading, They generally sort of provide some sort of leeway in the session that you can either do it then or like they'll like summarize, basically what the background was, okay, yeah perfect, thank you, no worries, um yeah, so high, I'm lecture, I'm 1/4 year doing humanities um Please feel free to either like type or just shout out some questions, hi, yes, so basically I just want to ask like what is like your typical kind of weak in terms of like ours and online versus in person that kind of thing. Yeah, so in terms of hours each week, it's normally about, like most days, are normally about half nine and 10 till about four um and then wednesdays, we normally finish at 12 and then most of the time we are in person so face to face at South kensington. Occasionally you might be at charing Cross um and then sometimes we have some online sessions in between um and they can be flexible so if there are stuff like train strikes or it's difficult for people to get to campus on a particular day um because of stuff like that, then they normally are also able to switch to online too, So it's quite it can be a mix, but it's mostly face to face at south kensington okay thank you and like in terms of so, basically, this is my like issue, so I quite like the idea of this course, but I've never been particularly like an english, like english literature, inclined person before in school, and I was just wondering like are you similar in that kind of way or why you always kind of like English literature like more inclined to that at school, and like because I'm kind of like, I think you mentioned before that. The essay writing can be quite daunting, and I think that is kind of scaring me in a sense, if I choose this, I know, I have to like write some essays and stuff, and like I don't know if I'm the best at that honestly, I think that's such an understandable concern and it is, it is generally one that I had as well um that I was just mentioning earlier that one of the really nice things that the professors do is that for each assessment, that you, that you have you get to have an assessment workshop, where you spend time in class, discussing how to write essays essentially so like for our formative assessment. Our first when it was a history, s. A. R. History professor ran like uh 2, 2.5 hour session basically on like how to like analyze sources, how to write an essay, how to structure it um. And then if you had any questions like you could just email her or chat to her and we got this kind of um specific information for each assessment, we've done, which I thought was really useful so like even if you've never written essay before, they give you like quite a nice basis um to sort of jump off from and they're like really supportive if you need any help or if you get stuck um and we get the formative at the start, which kind of gives you a chance to practice essay writing like if you've never done it before and which is really useful and they also I didn't mention this before, but they give you so much feedback like they give you really useful feedback um and really take the time to point things out for you, which I'm not sure like people on other. Bs, cs necessarily get with their coursework, so yeah, I hope that helps your question it did thank you yeah if anyone's got any other questions just feel free to shout them out um So there's one question some questions in the chat, so I'll go with what the areas of literature, history, and philosophy done in the course okay. Now, I can tell you we covered quite a few different things um so I was mentioning earlier the way the courses split up is split into topics about the body, topics about the mind and then topics about death and dying um and so for example with the body, you might read about literature concerning pain. You might read about literature um to do with sort of like cultural competency, competency or like medical systems around about the body. In history, you learn about um sort of the history of anatomy. Some of the uh ways that sort of like gender bias and stuff is like, influenced, like the way anatomy was sort of like steadied and perceived like in the past, and then like philosophy you might cover like mind body dualism to like other mind and body separate, are they one and the same thing, so it's normally topic that each week will kind of carry the topic and then the areas of literature, history and philosophy will feed into that topic. Um So like they were deaf and dying, you might cover literature of grief like the history of sort of morning and like philosophy of death um So that's basically how they cover it, but it's it's a lot of different areas and there's no guarantee like you'll find something that really piques your interest within all of that. Um yeah, I hope that you'll answer that question, If you have any more about that, please feel free to ask um ok pros and cons of the b. S. C, okay, so pros, I think it's great like if you enjoy variety because you get to experience such a different amount of things you get to do different kind of workshops, which can be like really created based or um like sort of going outside the classroom to like museums and like different places. Um I think we went on a trip to like the chelsea physic garden at one point to sort of like, have some classes there um and sort of look at like the use of that nature and plants and things in medicine. Um So there's loads of variety um It's a really supportive environment um It's a nice class size and it's very discussion based, It's not so much like trying to remember facts and figures or sciences, very much more developing or critical thinking and different kinds of different kinds of areas about medicine that you wouldn't necessarily have thought about before. Um Cons, it's hard cons is hard to think about, but I would just say perhaps just the workload, but I feel like that would be the same for any bsc, so there is pre reading that you have to do and the assessments um are a lot of work, but it's definitely doable and you get enough support that you're able to manage your time and if you're finding things difficult, um The professors and teaching team are incredibly helpful and won't ever sort of like leave you stranded. They're always there for questions um yeah that's why I would say the pros and cons of it are um are the text you need to read available from the library or do you have to purchase them. Um I think they're almost all available from the library either online or from campus. Um They normally sign post if they're ones that are more difficult to get hold of um and in that case, they might tell you where you can get hold of it from. Um We got a reading list in the summer for the books that we were going to kind of going to cover in the years. That also gives you a bit of time to find them if you can't uh. The other thing is that on online pdfs um uh You can also get those two, but they are generally most of the things you have to read accessible, okay um what is my final project going to be okay, So my final project um so I really like video games and I really like sort of the history of mental illness and I enjoyed learning about that as part of the course, um So I've decided I was kind of like, I want to look at the use of mental illness in horror video games um and to make it a bit more niche. I've sort of, I've narrowed it down now with some research into looking at the use of straitjackets in with characters and with enemies and horror gains. Um So yeah I'm going to be studying the use of straitjackets, basically as an element of horror in video games and basically the applications. This kind of halves on the general issues of using like mental illnesses like a horror point um The Agins is quite niche. It's quite specific, it's completely tailored to what I my interest, so that's it is, there's such a massive scope that you can do for the project um. And that just happens to be what I'm doing but I mean if you saw my class and all the different ideas, it's like there's so many different ideas, but you can literally do anything that piques, your interest that fits within medicine and humanities um which I think is great, but if you have any other questions, then feel free to type some more or just shout them out sorry, So I just wanted to confirm that that sounds so cool um like so you get you do you get to basically kind of as long as it fits in with medicine and humanities, do you get to really choose by yourself what your final project is going to be yeah, so I mean we get so essentially the way it works is you get some workshops like we get the assessment workshops. You also have once as a project, um where you get to read through some example like um project essays and things um and talk with the professors and talk with your class like about your ideas. And then in february, we had to submit a proposal essentially where we wrote down our idea, um why the like our motivation behind it, what we're sort of planning to use it's like literally only a page it wasn't like very detailed, but then they use that proposal basically to one check if it is like a feasible idea and kind of fits within the remits of the course, which is just medicine and humanities um, and then they use that information to help you find a supervisor, so now they're in the process of finding supervisors for us who are going to be like helping us with our project essentially, um and they try to pick people who are going to be experts in the field that you're interested in um but they will tell you if they think an idea like isn't going to work or if you need to change it, but for the most part they do try and like they do try and fit to what your interests are and what you want to do okay, Thank you, does anybody have any more questions all right one more um I wanted to ask like a is your does the project have to be like an essay or can it be like another form of like, let's say something that you produce like a like art or video, or something like that. Um So, I think the actual right up part of the project has to be like a 7000 word written piece, yeah, but you do get the opportunity to produce an artwork alongside that, which you can then reflect on in your right up like the process of making that artwork and so why you did so. Um And I've also read 11 of the projects I read was actually someone. They also were looking at video games and they actually made a video game as part of the process and then talked about the making of that in their project, so there's a lot of ways there's a lot of like scope to be created and they do really like it when people are creatives um yeah, so but the actual right up yeah, it's going to be like 7000 words um okay. Thank you I want to see that sounds so cool. Yeah, I'm very excited, I'm very excited for it like we're just starting now um. And it's quite nice because you get like I've got until the end of may now, basically for this project work, so you get quite a nice long period of time to focus on like a really particular interest, do you know like which horror games you're going to choose to like analyze the characters with like straitjackets, yeah, I have some in mind um like I have some in mind like one of them is called alice man, this returns, which is like a dark twist of alice in wonderland um and essentially that's that's like the point of view you're the player first person in a straitjacket um and then I was going to compare that with silent Hill, which kind of uses the straitjacket to create a monster and also outlast where there's just a non playable character in a straitjacket. Following you around, So, it's like three different uses of straitjackets essentially and why they're used in those particular ways to create like a horror atmosphere, okay, yeah that that's so sick, okay, thank you, no worries any other questions okay, so I see Hi, Reuben okay, so just joined what do you learn about on the course okay. Again, there's like so many different things that are covered on the course, but in general, it's split between the body, the mind, and different dying, So you're learning about topics related to those sort of different aspects, so for the body. We learn about the history of anatomy. We learned about the philosophy of the mind, philosophy of the body. Um We learn about sort of law relating to the body, so stuff like the human tissue act, and sort of these kinds of things and then um you'll do like workshops based on those topics as well um so it might be like sculpture or poetry or like visiting museums like we've been to the National Gallery roof into the Science museum. We've been to the b and a um and sort of discussing the same things. Uh So you learn about different topics in the body, the mind, and death and dying and you learn about these topics through different disciplines like philosophy, history, law, ethics, film I keep forgetting to mention film films like one of my favorite sessions um and different workshops and things and trips, but yeah, if there's anything more specific, you wanna know, then just feel free to type or feel free child um okay, so I'll just answer this last question, I want to go, but how has your bsc informed your academic interests um. So for me, I was already, I did already have an interest in humanities um and sort of like medical ethics in the, in this different side to medicine essentially um and um I've really fallen in love with the content that we've done this course, so it's made me basically consider um my interest in medical ethics and whether I would want to go onto like academic teaching of medical ethics um or kind of explore research in the medical humanities field a bit more alongside my clinical career, so that's basically the way that I would say it's informed my academic interests um It might not feel as sciences e, as other bs cs, It's not this is very different um but the opportunities for kind of research and teaching and like implementing it into a career is in medicine um or beyond, I think are absolutely great and I'm definitely going to be considering that and keeping in touch with the humanities side of myself, I saw, discovered through this course um throughout my clinical kind of clinical career um as a doctor. Hello. Um If um no one comes well to be fair, you could just like, excuse yourself now if you want to get on with your evening, Otherwise, you're more than welcome to hang around with your audio and camera off until seven, just in case anyone um comes, but it's very unlikely, so you're more than welcome to leave. I'll be sending certificates tonight and if anyone mentions your breakout room, I will let you know and I'll tell you what they said okay perfect. Thank you so much. Thanks, bye.