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Hello, everyone. Um, I'm Isabel and this is Emily. Hi. Hello, we're going to talk to you um, this evening about applying for an F three post. Um So I will just kick things off um because we're going to probably introduce ourselves properly in a minute. Um So to start off, I just wanna tell you a bit about what I did in F three. So II started off doing F one N two in North Central London and then I did a Plastics Junior Clinical Fellow post for about nine months. Um after that in a different hospital. So a different place that I work before and then I left that post uh slightly early to then do a few months of loing at hospitals. I've worked at before and traveling and then I during that year also applied for core surgical training. So I'm now in course co surgical training in Edinburgh. And I just want to include some pictures about the fun things that I did in my three. So obviously on the right, um I went traveling in Indonesia in the Philippines, um learned how to surf and scuba dive, which is fab and then um did some good things with as well. So I presented a project that I did a green surgery conference um and also been doing a lot of volunteer work with um with W PMN and then another organization called Surviving Scrubs. Um So that's all about myself. Um So about me. So a again, I did foundation years um in North Central London. And then for my F three, I decided that I wanted to have a break straight away. So II went traveling for six months. Um So I was in South America um before of that, which you can see in some of the pictures. And then after that, I applied for an intensive care J CF which I started in the February and did six months of that. Um And then again, some pictures of that. So there's some propofol in a vial and then that was start watching Eurovision at work. Um I sort of in my F three felt that I wasn't ready to go into training. So I decided that I wanted to do another year out. Um So I'm currently in a four, whereas this year, um I've decided to sort of locum instead rather than doing a clinical fellow job. Um And I've sort of used that as you can see. So I've done some poster presentations this year. Um So that was sort of my approach to training. Um And just to say everyone, if you have any questions about anything we're talking about, please put them in the chart and we will answer them um at the end. So I think not only do you have to think about how you want to spend your f three work wise. So do you want to do a junior clinical fellow post? Which is what a lot of people choose to do? Do you want to locum? Do you want to do another type of job? There's also lots of things going along onside it. So I think that's important to think about when you are deciding how to spend it. Um You might be applying for a specialty. So bear that in mind, you're going to be doing your portfolio and interviews as well. During that time, you might want to set some exams, attend some conferences, um do an audit or a qi project and also present it. You might also want to do some fun things and get involved with some volunteering organizations that you're really interested in. I think three is a perfect year to spend a bit more time on that side of your portfolio. Um doing something that you enjoy, you might choose to um do some teaching qualifications. Um And then the key thing really is to do things you enjoy. So both me and Emily wanted to travel. Um And I think that was obviously the highlight of my F three. And it's a perfect time to do that before you start training, um or continuing your out of training years. Um So I can just see there's a question on the chat from Grace, what is a junior clinical fellow? And what does the role involve day to day? Um So it's essentially a locally employed doctor by the trust. Um If it's for a certain specialty, you'll just specialize in that food. For example, I did intensive care as well. Did plastic surgery. You are essentially just an sho doctor um for that. But with some of these jobs, you can, for example, get like a teaching clinical fellow. So you do, for example, maybe 60% clinical and 40% teaching of medical students. Um So I think they're quite a good opportunity to build on your CV, um and learn new skills in certain specialties. Um So moving on just in terms of on the slide. So the we sort of thought about what the pros and cons of doing in a three are. Um So I think as we've said, building on your CV, you can explore new specialties. So obviously, you're currently will have six specialties in your foundation years. They might not be things you want to do. And I think obviously it, you're then tying yourself to a career. So it's probably a good chance if you think you might like something and you've not done it before then. Now's the time um not being on an on call rota is obviously a benefit and it means you can attend things more, you know, social events, you know, you're not having to try and swap weekends to attend certain things. And then I think the cons are probably that, you know, it's not always reliable if you decide to just locum rather than, than doing a contracted job. And I think we're all sort of aware of the increasing competition ratios both for GCF S and training jobs. Um And so therefore some people do just want to go straight into training because they don't want to take the time out. Yeah. And just to add into that, I think you have to wait at the time out of training versus the huge benefits of doing a clinical fellow post. So I know I had to, I wanted to take a year out before surgical training. Um firstly because my portfolio wasn't good enough and I needed a bit more time to work on that. But also I think um the things that you learn, so the things I learned before starting core surgical training, I did a whole nine months of plastic surgery. So that means that when I've started my core surgical training, I'm able to operate at a much higher level than other people that have started. So I'm already getting much, you know, much, um more numbers um for operations that I need. Um And I'm able to manage their own calls much better so I can spend more time in theater. So I think you need to think about that as well. I appreciate that in a lot of surgical specialties, particularly you get addicted points if you spend longer time out of training. But I still think there is definitely scope and room to do an F three. because of the huge amounts of portfolio stuff and skills that you will learn in that year. Um It, it definitely outweighs the negatives. Does that answer your question, Grace about what a junior clinical fellow does? You're basically an H like Emily said, so you'll probably be on the same road as the F twos or the I MT S or the core surgical trainees. So you're going to be at a similar level of all of those people and just doing exactly what they're doing. Um But you're not technically in training. So moving on. So the focus of this talk today is really about how to apply for F three post. Um which is somewhat confusing. There's not a lot of information out there about how you actually find these jobs. So the first point of call is going to be NHS jobs um and track jobs. So they're all kind of one system. Um And I'll show you some screenshots of what they look like, but you can literally just search junior clinical fellow and you will be given lots of different jobs in lots of different specialties. So, yeah, Grace, they do exist in certain specialties. I don't know if all specialties, but I'm pretty sure every person I know who has wanted to do something has got a clinical fellow post in that specialty. There's a lot of surgical ones. There's a lot of, I don't know Emily how they run for medicine. I know you did an it one but they do have medical ones. Normally the J CFS, you wouldn't be able to get a community one so that you can't do a PJ CF. Um, I've not really heard of that many psych J CFS. Um, and I think maybe some of the more niche surgical specialties. Um, I've not heard of any ophthalmology, neurosurgery, but I would say the sort of, you can get obviously most of the surgical core specialties and then in medicine it, you can get most of them to be honest. Yeah, you usually can find something that either you definitely think you want to do or you're interested in or something that's quite similar and actually has an element of like Emily said, teaching or academic posts as well, which we haven't even mentioned. They are academic clinical fellow posts for people that are interested in research. Another way to find out what jobs are existing are to look around with who you work with. What do they do. And, um, if there's a department you want to work in or a specialty, you want to work in. Email, their head of staffing and find out. So, um, I sent out a couple of emails to different, um, plastic surgery departments in London to find out when they were releasing their J CF Post. Um, and they were pretty prompt at replying. So that's another way to find out. So once you found the job of your dreams, you fill in the application form, which is quite lengthy and I'll show you a bit about what that looks like, but it's slightly different for each job, but they generally consist of, um, some key bits, then you'll probably have an interview. Um And if you want to know a bit more about what that interview entails, just ask in the chat and I can talk a bit about what that was like. And then you have that lengthy process of filling in all your documents, right? To work checks, et cetera and then you'll start your job. Um, so I did like I applied. This is the time frame that I applied it slightly different for Emily because she did one in the later half of the year. So I applied now basically. So March and April um is when they started to release the jobs I was interested in. And that's pretty much the same for most.