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Talk to go. So I would II just wanted to talk more a little bit about like my timeline and then an introduction to the fy two standalone program as well as like pros and cons, you might be, you know, interested in uh person specification, the standalone timeline or how the application process will go and the situational judgment test a little bit on that uh the interviews and then rankings and then preferencing and then at the end, we can do AQ and A OK. And then if you have any questions at all, just like there and then I'll give my email at the end. So if you didn't have um or, or if something pops into your mind or anything like that afterwards, just let me know. So I just wanted to start with my timeline. So I did so I graduated medical school uh in the Philippines and took the pe in 2021. Um So and then II started uh so I booked, I was able to book my club one in November of 2022. I did a clinical attachment in Forth Valley Royal Hospital in their ent department in uh February 2023. And then from there, I did uh take class two in May 2023. I passed and was able uh there's just a little bit of an issue regarding my registration, but I got registered in September of 2023. Uh And then I did like a job search where I worked as well like that whole, this whole time from when I got my license in the Philippines to May 2024 I did do um work in my home country as either like uh an um O PD or like an er doctor. I'll talk a little bit more about why that could be important. And then um in August this year, I did start as an F two doctor. So what is the two S program? So the f so in the UK, part of their medical education is after they graduate medical school, they go into a foundation program. So the foundation program is two years, OK? Two years worth of, of uh two years of clinical experience and then they're fully uh they're fully trained for then that's when they can um apply for um that, that's when they can start applying for training posts. The it's similar to, to internship back home, but they do have like full registration. So the training posts for that are so it is a training post to be cleared and it's all over the UK. So you can get uh slots in England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland or, or um any of those places and it is a direct entry into the year two of the foundation program. So you don't have to do F uh F one. So a lot of, so what is the difference between an F one and an F two? So an F one is like fresh out of medical school. So they do have just a provisional re registration. So this means that, you know, they can see patients and everything but they cannot prescribe. So an F two is a more independent um is a more independent doctor. They have a full registration, that means they can prescribe uh basically anything um even even like controlled substances here and everything like that. So a full, they do have a full registration to just uh to order tests or they're more independent. Um Basically, so that is what an F two is. So different years have different available slots. So in 2023 it was 90. So that was uh and then 2024 this year we have 240 slots available. Um There is a caveat for this one but I'll, I'll mention a bit later uh the year before that in 2022. Um I can't really find the, the numbers but I did hear it was a bit a little over 100. So it really varies um differently per year. So likely they'll release the slots when the application process opens. So what are the pros and cons of af I two standalone? So speaking from my experience really is that one of the pros definitely is, it's, it's a training post, there is supervision. So um for me, we do have a clinical supervisor and an educational super educational supervisor and they can be two different people. So uh the educational supervisor is the person who's really in charge of your training. But the clinical supervisor is the person who's, who's uh in your rotation, who's making sure that you know, you're OK with the um how it is, how things are clinically speaking. So it has definitely a lot of revision. You'll never feel like you don't have anyone to rely on. So and you also have access to the portfolio. So they, they are very big on, on doing portfolio work here. So you can do a lot of uh in in we do it like the mini ce the team based assessments, all of those. So you would have access to doing that portfolio work that you can use. Definitely in the training later on. You do have a lot of protected times. I have um like uh you can have like super vision about what like you, you're uh where I am right now in old age psychiatry, for example, every week I have an academic training time in on like um I have the rest of the afternoon off one of the one of the days and then I have once a month, like a self development time where I can just do whatever I want. Uh basically, and then just a lot of more structure into, into this work. Um And it is, it, it definitely is work, but it's also a training program. Uh There also is no need for you to get uh crest form signed because you do have the portfolio to show or like you do have your supervisor who, who like who uh supervises you basically. And it doesn't count for like over qualifications because uh if you do, like for example, apply for a training program, they do uh you're considered overqualified if you have more than, for example, like two years in like surgery and you wanna do surgery, uh uh you have two more than two years in uh surgical nontraining post, then you're overqualified to be applying for a training post. So the four months here doesn't really apply for uh training uh over qualification. So on to the cons. So I think the, the pros and the cons of, I put it as a rota uh rotations, but it definitely depends on the person. So if you know what you want to do, you're quite set on, for example, surgery or I am, it can be a bit, um it can be a bit of a con I guess because you do get to choose, by the way, II will talk about that later. But it's, it might be a bit rare that you will like all of your rotations. So you just have to like do the rotations, but it really depends on the person. Sometimes you, you might, you might not be sure and you want to explore all of all of those rotations and that's good. But if your, you know, your mind is a bit set, it might not be a good thing that you do have to go through like four months of particular work. There is also a cap on the working hours of an F two. So in my contract, it says that I cannot be working more than 48 hours in a week and that's fine. Um What they, so that means I can't really do local work, for example, or I have to make sure that if I do get local, it's not something that's go that goes over my working hours, which is a bit rare honestly, if it's 48 hours a week and I already work about 40 hours a week anyway. And the last con would be like you do start as a lower level if that makes sense. Um So you do start as af two level if you have quite a bit of an experience already. Um Maybe F two is really for you. Uh Because if you want it F two, like the F two trainees, they're not expected like you're not really expected to do or to know so much, um, like management wise or anything like that. But, yeah, if you're, uh, you do have to, like, get a lot of senior help and, and, and all of that. So they don't necessarily expect so much of you, which can be a good thing as well. Um, but yeah, that's for me it can be a con but for, uh, to be fair, for me it, it, it's a bit of a pro because it's definitely a good place to start if you're not, uh, if you're not familiar with the system. So, yeah, and you can just kind of be like, oh, I'm like, I'm an F two. I really don't know how things work here and that's fine and you know what they, they, they take it as it is because you're a trainee. So the person specification. So, uh please look at the foundation program, um, in the, the, the specific ones that they look for because I won't be really going into too much about like the qualities because they do say a lot about like clinical knowledge and judgment and all of those things, which can be a little bit more subjective. So this is more of like steps you do have to do. So some, uh these are some basic assumptions that I'm making of like the audience. OK. So one is that you do have a medical degree, whether it's uh, the MD that we have in the Philippines or if it's like an M BBS that they have somewhere else you did? Uh I am also assuming that perhaps you're doing post graduate medical work. This is because this is based on my experience. But so if it's not, these assumptions are true, that's fine. You can email me if you have specific questions. Um Another assumption is that you're not already working in the UK. And the last one is that you have taken, you have already taken plan two or you're about to take CLA two because part of the, the person specification is that you do have to take CLA two by May to give enough time to uh be registered by August because that's when the, the fy two standalone uh program starts. So the person specification though there and if you've been um applying for work in the UK in general, you'll know that there is like essential criteria and des desirable criterias. So the essential criteria, of course, you have to be GMC registered. This is a full registration, not a provisional registration and you or you are qualified to become GMC registered by the start date. So that means that you know, you have to have taken pla two by, by May to start in August. And uh what the other thing is, you have to have the English test. So if you've taken the Ielts, it has to be at least 7.5 in each domain. And the O ET, if you take the, if you took the O ET, it's 400 in each domain. OK. There are some caveats here with the, if you're um in an English speaking country or if you've been working in the UK for about like three months, you can, those are the, those can be exceptions, but this is the one I want to specify on and your English test has to be um has to be valid by the time that, that um that the program starts. So it ha so if you're starting in August of 2024 So yeah, August 2024 you have to have taken Ielts or O et after 20 August 2022. So it has to be valid by the time you start. Another important um uh thing to have is the LS certificate or an equivalent by the program starts. So you can honestly, you can just say that you plan to take it or you or, or, you know, you booked it, that's fine. You can take it during the application process, but you have to have it by the time that this starts. So an LS certificate um equivalent would be either an A LS or an ACL S which both are valid for four years. So the other desirable criterias. So the relevant qualifications. So some of these could be the A LS if you have other, a alert is what they have here as well. You can't have, or you shouldn't have more than two years of UK work experience. And this is because they don't, they, you, you would be overqualified to be an F two. You definitely shouldn't be applying for, for, I mean, you shouldn't be applying for F two. You can be applying for like a junior clinical fellow or, or those kinds of levels of, of work already. Not an FQ, you have to have practice continuously for the last year as a doctor as in clinical setting. Um or you can provide an evidence of why that's, that's not how it is. So that's a good um thing to have you. Uh Another desirable criteria would be an NHS experience honestly with this one, it can be difficult. Uh II put it as my uh attachment, uh any public health service or, or any public health experience. So, um for me, this was when I used to work in a government hospital as a medical officer for a few months. So I, that's what I put and I think this is quite helpful, especially once you get into um into the uh into the interview portion. And then another uh desirable criteria would be clinical audits. So that's for the person specification. So what is the, the timeline here that we're looking at? So the, the 2025 timeline hasn't been released or anything yet. But um this is the timeline that I have, which is quite similar, two of the ones that are, are historical. So I assume that this will also be a similar timeline to what you'd have a 2025 F two standalone program. So in January, the, it's the submission of applications. So usually it's like the second or third week of January and then they released the long list at the end of January. So in Feb February 2024 they asked us to early, we were sent an email to book the S GT or the situational judgment test, which was done in March of 2024. And then at the end of March, they released the um the did either at the end of March or the early April, they did release the SAT results and then they invite me for an interview and then uh the interview was at the end of April and then, or, or nearing the end of April. Mine was I believe April 24. And then after that, a, a few days after that, they released the results of the ranking of, of, of the, yeah, of the, of the res of the results of the interview and the ranking. They also do give you feedback on the interview. And then there was uh preferencing in May of 2024 and we'll talk about that uh ear uh later on. But it's basically when you get to choose where you'd want to go. And then in August of 2024 I started as an F two doctor. So that is uh my F two timeline at uh at least. So the application process happens via the website Aureo. So you do have to make an account there. Um It's where the website generally used for training uh to apply for training programs. It is a fairly straightforward process honestly just if you just keep going to um and, and do what it asks you and if you're, if you uh qualify for the essential criteria, it's a very straightforward process. Um So I don't wanna draw too much on that one, but I just want to talk about the situational judgment test. So the situational judgment test is a one hour long um test. It, is it, so 10 minutes of it is a tutorial on how to choose and all of that, but 45 minutes is the actual test. It's 20 scenarios and then there are five. So based on the scenario, they give you about 5 to 6 choices, uh not necessarily choices but like follow up questions and then you have to rank each one from extremely undesirable to extremely desirable, but you're not ranking them against each other. You're ranking them based on what you would do. So you take each choice or each um choice from there as its own and then you, you rank it. It's like if you're, if you would do it or not. You don't uh compare it to each other and you can take the situational judgment test online. There are resources you can uh do to study for this. I would say the one that they give the, they, they do have it in the website, they give you a sample test. That's fine. You can also read the good medical practices, um, that they, that the GMC releases and honestly, that's about it. Um I didn't do the other ones that some people might say the, the emetica or, or, or those other um programs. I didn't do any of that and I believe I scored fairly well in the situational judgment test um before. So what, what, what happened before is that situational judgment test was really a big part of how the ranking goes. But for our year, they, they, they took away that portion. So a situational judgment test was just used as a way to invite or to cut down or like to um be able to get like the top people from the situational judgment test would be able to be invited for the interview. So it wasn't used in the ranking anymore or it, it would be if you had the same uh uh score in the interview. But the interview was the um was the primary factor in, in ranking someone. So uh let's talk about the interview. So the interview is five as it's 20 minutes long. It's a very stressful 20 minutes to be fair. So five minutes of so the first five minutes they asked you to tell us about yourself and you would go through your CV. Basically. Um and then five minutes each for three scenarios. So three at least three scenarios, they can be like two clinical, one, ethical, two ethical, one clinical, but it's a mix of both. So the CD portion, um these are things that II did for my uh interview. So the CD portion goes by the C A format. So honestly, in the five minutes, you just tell them about yourself. So um it's a clinical academ and management and then personal. So that's the format. So you talk about like your experience clinically and then your experience academically and an experience in a management sense and this isn't um like a business sense or anything. This is about how you um how you're able to manage things. Uh For example, how you delegate tasks, all of those kinds of um things that, that is uh part of management as a, as a um as a trait and then uh personal qualities that you might have. So that's for the CD portion. And then the clinical scenario, honestly, it's just um for me, at least it was um I don't wanna give specifics but generally do the ABCD E do the ABCD E all the time just to make sure because what they're really checking here in the interview. Is that you are a safe doctor, you're a safe doctor that they would want to be seeing patients because patient safety is everything here. So always do. The ABCD, always do the tests. There are a lot of tests and I just really wanna be sure uh II really wanna emphasize as well, but it's OK if you say I don't know. All right, I did that during my interview, I said, um they asked me a specific question and I said, I don't know if that uh I don't know of the test you're talking about or I don't know what it is. But I will uh I, if I, I'd ask my senior or something like that. So at the end, always ask for senior help, always escalate to the senior. Um And then the ethical scenario, the, the, the way it usually goes is in the spy format. So it's the, it's usually a colleague of um a difficult colleague or anything like that. So it's seek information, patient safety initiative, escalate and support if you've taken the path to, you know, about how, how uh what spies is. But for those who haven't taken it, that's basically the scenario you have. So you, you um uh sorry, this is the format that, that is ideal to use in the interview. So after the, the interview, after a few days, I think ours was about a week or three, about three days a week or so um it, the ranking comes out via A L. So usually it's um what comes out is if you're appoint or not appoint and only the appoint people do get ranked because there's no point in, you know, ranking the non appoint ones. So you uh get a ranked. And then what they, so what happens is that during your interview, each of those portions are tests are, are uh have a score and then you do get feedback. OK? About a week after our um ranking results came out, we did get feedback on our, how we did in the interview. So the, the the feedback is usually like how you are uh like what, how you did things you might not have done well, all of those things, they also score you on how um you communicate those kinds of things. So um you can see exactly what you scored and then uh if you have the same score as someone else, they, that's really ii think that's when they take into account the, the situational judgment test. So that's the ranking ideally if you get. So for example, in my, during my like um with the slots we had, if you rank in the, the top 240 more or less, you're going to get a job um and you should be able to get an offer. So all of this is done on a EO so they ask you to do a ranking or like preferencing. So um I can't really access it, access it now, but there are two portions of it. So it's like, so there's a part where you, so all of it starts as a not preferred and then you drag them or you drag your preferred slots into the um uh into the preferred list basically and you rank them. Um Yeah, you rank them based on where you'd want to go. So how it works is that if you're like, if you're, for example, ranked number one, definitely you're likely you're, you're probably gonna get your number one choice if you were rank 50. For example, how it works is that um if the people, if rank number 1 to 49 didn't choose your number one slot as their slot, then you, you get the number one slot. But for example, if you get, if someone did choose your number one slot, then you, you do go down the line. So you get like your number two slot or whatever, if someone else else hasn't taken that and then if, and then there's also the upgrades. So if you, for example, do get uh your, your R 50 if you get like your 10th slot, uh your 10th preference, you uh if someone else decides not to take the, the job or like not to take the offer and that does happen quite a bit, you can choose to upgrade and it's an automatic upgrade or you can opt out of upgrades. So II, what I did was I opted out of upgrades because um I was able to match or like I was able to get into the, into one of my top choices anyway, with um my friend. So um on that, I did like to talk a little bit about how um how you would do the preferencing. I guess it really is dependent on what's important for you. So sometimes it can be the location. So, um, if, are you prefer, uh, do you prefer the city or do you prefer a more rural place? And that's fine. It really is dependent on like what you choose. If you like a more nature. Uh, if you like having, or like being surrounded by nature more, then that's fine. Uh, or if you like a more quiet lifestyle, then, um, there like a rural area would be better. A city definitely has more access to like transportation links, um, to more like more activities to do. So, usually the cities do go first. If you rank quite low, I would say you might not, you're not likely to get a city. Um, but yeah, so that's, you have to think about like, if you're ok with being not in the city or, or, or if you prefer being in a, in a, in a rural, rural area. Are you trying to match with another person? So, um, um, a fr my friend and I we did apply together for the, the program and we're quite lucky because we ran nearly the same. So we were, um and we, we did a certain way. Uh We did something with our, our uh how we preferred things that I don't know, made us match in the same exact place, which is great. So that's why we didn't offer upgrades at all because we already, we knew we wanted to be, we like the location, we wanted to um be in the same area and the rotation wise we were OK with like uh with the rotations we got. So yeah, and then or are you more uh you also have to think about the rotations. So some of the rotations are not like they might not be great. Um Especially if you're an I MG, for example, I would say um there are certain rotations that might be a bit more difficult, especially if you don't have access for a car. For example, there are, there are ones that might expect you to do home visits, those kinds of things. Um So you do have to think about that. You also have to think about where each loc, the locations of each of those irritations are um my irritations. So I so out of my three rotations, two of them are not, I'm sorry, one of them is not in the same place. So I'm not in the, I'm not working in the hospital. I'm working like, in the community hospital and that's fine. That's fine for me. Um, I know someone else who is in three different places and they're quite a bit of a travel for her. She does, uh, like, she, they have to travel from like, uh, about one, an hour and a half in, in one direction and then, you know, they, they are going to have to travel into the other, into other places. So it's, they're not in the same place basically. And I, if you're OK with that, that's fine. But those are things you do have to think about with, with um preferencing. But also if you're also, if you're also just looking for a job in the UK because um you know, once you get that NHS experience, it's really, it does get a little bit easier to apply for work here. If that's the case then, and you're willing to take any job that's also fine. So I, that's the end of um my talk. Uh Do you guys have any questions? Uh And here's my email, if you did have any questions that you um you didn't wanna raise during the uh talk or if you think of anything else at the end uh while we're waiting for, while we're waiting for questions. Could you guys also answer the feedback form uh for FAY, this will really help with her. I have a question. So you mentioned earlier that ACL S was valid for four years isn't ACL S just valid for two years and then a LS for four years. Yes. So the thing is they consider, so they don't like the, in the, if you do look at the, the form, I was also that they considered it valid for four years, but they do say that it's both valid for four years. So even if, for example, your ACL S has expired in, in like, uh back home, definitely it, that's, that would still um apply. But I would, for me, I would still say just take it again. So uh the GI so back to the um eligibility criteria. So I'll just go back to that on the slides. Um So I didn't list everything here but the for the person specification, you do have to be GMC registered or are qualified to be GMC registered by the time that the um by August 2025. If you're applying for the 2025 cycle in the English test, you have to have taken at least uh you have to score at least a 7.5 with at least a 7.5 in each domain. And then for the O ET it's 400 in each domain. And then you also have to have an LS certificate or an equivalent of that uh in terms of, let's say building your CV for, for F two standalone applications, is there anything that you would suggest that you found helpful for yours, like whether it's work or teaching or things like that. Oh yeah. So in my desirable criteria, uh the ones I put here. So I do have, um, like the public health experience cause I did work in a government hospital. So I do think that helps. I also think for me, at least I think that having, er, experience really helps because of the, how the interview process is, how the clinical, like how the clinical scenario plays out might help. Like, it would really help if you have an er, experience. Um having a teaching experience is also great because then um that can really show your interest towards teaching, which can be like, which is a big factor here. Um In, in the UK, they do like uh teaching. Uh so I did, um I did uh I was a junior faculty in, in the medical school. I graduated from, so I did that for uh uh a while. Um I also did an audit in my, in my workplace. So that's also a big part of, of um of like what they would find to be a desirable thing. So the question is for preferencing, do we rank hospitals and, or trusts based on our preference or do we just cat between preferred versus not preferred in the latter? How many can we choose preferred? So technically, you can put all of it. Um But honestly, I, like, if you ran like 50 you can just put like 50 I would put like 20 more just to be safe. But, um, you can put as many as you ran and that's really all you would need. Um, for the, how, how it works is you can actually, um, you can actually, um, prefer or you can just select one particular post. So you don't have to, it's not by like trust or Deanery. It's, for example, you can choose um to prefer like uh something from like Derby over somewhere from Southampton and then back to Derby. So it's not um So it's, it's, you can choose a particular slot rather than just than the Deanery and then all the slots under it, there's something like that. So, so yes, it uh so would the A A ACL S be considered or do we have to do the A LS in the UK? So you do. So the ACL S is considered as an I LS certificate. Um It is an equivalent and that's what I used. Uh personally. Do you have tips on the interview part? So, on the interview part, um I do uh I, so let me just go to the interview portion. So it is a, it is quite AAA stressful um 20 minutes. So in the five minutes for the CV. And about yourself, I would say, II honestly, I memorized my spiel, I just said, um like I memorized my, the format I had and that's fine. They'll let you talk and then they'll, they'll kind of interrupt you 1 to 5 minutes. It's over for the scenarios I would say. Um, they give, so they give, they do give you, uh, it can be a quite a varied clinical scenario. You could be, but you also have to remember that you are an F two. Don't think that you're, I mean, whatever experience you have back home, don't think in, in that sense think that you are an F two. What would you be able to do as an F two? So as an F two, you're able to um say uh to order CT, you're able to do, order CT scans, ultrasounds, um uh you're able to order um x-rays all of those things. So you do have to take that into account and then that's what you say. So you, you do like I would check for, uh you can say uh if they give you the scenario, just make sure that you say like uh just, just to be sure I would check for airway breathing circulation. Um And then like in pla how you do like, oh I check for airway, any um any like foreign body in the mouth, any breathing, all of those things, but if there's talking then clearly the airway is fine, you know, you just have to narrate the ABCD uh depending and sometimes they do give you um uh they do give you the test results or they also ask you, they give you more like additional information in the middle or um they might also ask you, what do you think this scenario? Like, what do you think it is? And honestly, it's ok if you're wrong because um I believe like in my clinical scenario, I did get, I think II got it wrong. But as long as you're safe in the end, like that, you say that like then if I missed any uh if there's anything II might have missed or, or I would ask my senior for, for advice if I missed anything. So yeah, like it's for, that's for the clinical scenario, the ethical scenario. I think the spice format really works well. Um And you do have to show a lot of empathy or like you really do have to um you do have to think about things that you might not be thinking about at home. For example, like spies, for example, there's a part here where you have to seek information, patient safety and then initiative. Um So you do have to try and like it depends, you can confront your colleague, but a lot of this depends on the scenario because there are scenarios where you shouldn't be confronting your colleague and you should just go to the supervisor instead and then support. Definitely they're very big on um offering support. So this could be um like asking your colleague to maybe um like what's happening in their private lives or like if they're ok, maybe they should go to the GP all of those things. And that's a big, I think that's a big um part of the grade as well. II hope that answered your question. Uh Pamela, do you guys have any other uh questions? And so like, I'll just flash my um email at the end again. So just in case you guys had anything you wanted to ask me, there's also a helpful medical interview book. It's called uh it's Medical Interviews, a comprehensive guide, the CT SD and Registrar Interview Skills. It's by ISC medical and I think that's helpful even even at, at an F two level and do, I'll do what they said uh this both this again and F two equivalent. And to be honest, I think the difference here in comparison to, to let's say in the Philippines because I think majority of the attendees here are from the Philippines. I would say that F two is at least based on my experience. I will, I also started as an F two equivalent. I would say that they have more independence. Mhm In terms of e and even expectations in terms of management. So it's not, it's not just doing, it's not just, let's say, oh I'll give paracetamol and then they refer no, you know, you uh you request a chest x-ray, you start antibiotics, you do this and that um especially if the patient is using high and then once you stabilize the, once you've stabilized the patient, you start the initial, then you escalate it to your senior um, for them to add. But it's not, uh it's important to in, involve them, but not necessarily before you even start or just after a few bits. Oh, I'd like to involve my senior, you know. Yeah. So, so the thing here is that they're really, they're really checking if you're like, clinically, you sound so it's, and, and if you think about it in that scenario, it's not as if you're going to leave your patient unstable anyway. Yeah. You know, so you do have to like, stabilize the patient, give them all of the medications they need. If it's just fluids, you can just, uh, honestly you can just say I would start fluid, uh, immediately they'll give you, they could give you some vital signs. Ok. It's stabilized and all of that. Um, so, uh, once you reach the point where they're stable or they're fairly stable, that's when you can say that like after all of this I would, um, inform my senior that this has happened and see if they want to add any more tests. Uh, I've, or I haven't already ordered that kind of, um, thing. So it's always, so you, you do do a lot of the more independent work but at the end you should, um, involve a senior and that's really what they're, they're looking for if you're a safe doctor and you're not thinking, you're not thinking of doing everything on your own. Yeah. So, I think, like, back home it's a lot of, like, I'm gonna do this on my own. I, uh, like back in the Philippines, at least that's how it felt. A lot of the time that you don't have senior support, you may not have senior support. So it's always like, ok, this is what I would do and all of those things. So that's not expected of you here. So they expect they expect you to work independently. But at the same time, they also, they also say, and this is something that we would, would be, be the same for the S GT if you're not comfortable with doing something or you're not sure about a procedure, you're not sure about a certain test or a certain medication. You do have to like as much as possible, ask a senior for help if you're not comfortable about doing something, ask a senior for help. That's, that's basically how it is because they don't want you to compromise patient safety. So, Stephanie asked, um we need, if we need to rank our preferred trustor programs. Um So you do, you do have to rank the preferred programs. Uh So this, so for example, my trust or like my Deanery uh is the Wessex Dry, but my trust is, is uh specifically in Southampton in the in the form, you'll see that it's per slot. So for example, Southampton had about two slots. If there's two slots, you can pick like, you can pick the two, the second slot and then uh rank that and then like, you can rank something else from like one slot from Derby one slot from Essex, one slot from, uh like Colchester. And then you can go back and then you, you take the one slot from Southampton again. It depends on how you want to rank it. I ranked it as based on location. So a lot of the ones, for example, of all the slots in like Southampton I or all the slots in Colchester, for example, I like the surgery ones because I uh I, I'm interested in that specific subspecialty or specialty. So if you want so out of all of the ones in, in Colchester, for example, if there's 10 and five of it had surgical, I would take all of those five, put it in my preferred list because I like the location and then, um you can, and then after you can rank them in any particular way you want. If you want that, if you, for example, you like the mix of rotation for one slot, you can put that above all of the rest. So that's how you do the preferencing. I hope that answered your questions. Love me. So, yeah, do you have any more uh questions? Medical interviews? Ct I think, to be honest, I think F two standalone is a great place to start. Actually, I was because I started a year before fe and I was encouraging her to, to start. I don't think it's too low. Uh I started at an F two equivalent rotational post, but it wasn't official and it just gives you a bit more leeway to adjust rather than, yeah, I would rather than like starting, um let's say at a higher level, although, you know, you can also start at an ST one. That's totally fine. Yeah, that's totally fine. If you would do want to start as an ST one. What from? Ok. So based on my experience right now, I, you find that a lot of the time also, like the staff, for example, have a lot more leeway for someone who's starting as an F two. If you're an F two, they're like, they, they, if you don't say like, oh, I've never done that or I don't know how to do this or I don't think I can do that all of those things. They're fine with that. But if sometimes, um I've heard stories of, for example, someone who starts at a higher level and a nontraining post or even as a training post, they expect so much from you of like, oh why don't you or like they, they want, they want like, oh why don't you know how to do this? Why don't you know how to do that. But definitely like if you say you're an ed, they're like, oh, that's fine. Ok. We'll teach you something about any tips for getting the desired IE LT score. Just practice. Uh Usually writing is the hardest part. Practice the writing bit. If you have problems with speaking, practice that as well. There's a lot of videos online on youtube about how to, how to get the score that you need. Yeah. Um So what I would, I did um for me, the writing was the most uh the issue. So I would do a lot of the writing, do a lot of writing prompts. There are a lot of um free resources on, on youtube, for example, that tell you how to do the writing um in a certain way because they do, they are looking for a certain kinds of, of things in, in, in your writing um to, to score that high. So it's not just like you, you can be really, really good at English, for example, in speaking, writing, uh the listening, listening, reading uh speaking might not be an issue for you, but the writing can be a, a big issue just because like they are looking for very specific things with how you, how you write. So I would say try and check out a lot of the free resources on youtube. Um Yeah, II would say it, you know, try and, and practice that that do you need to be in the UK to do the exams. Uh So the exam, the S GT can be done at home. Um If you have friends in Manila, I do believe we have, uh, like in Macay there is the Pearson View Centers. So you can, you can go there if you, you don't really trust your internet at home, that's fine. You can sign up to go there but there are limited slots and then, or you can do it at home. I think there are some people who like there are indefinite uh definitely in different countries. There are uh places you can do. The S GT at home interview is done via teams. So they send you an email on, on um uh they send you an email with a teams link that you're supposed to uh log into about 10 minutes before the interview. So this can all, like all of the process can be done at home and I did it at home or I did it just, yeah, like at home. So you don't have to be in the UK for this one. Uh Just posting the feedback form again for those who haven't answered it. If you ran in the middle and all your preferred slots have been taken already, but there are still slots available. Is it possible to get matched to trust? Not. So the thing is, I think Angelica, this is how it works. If let's say you have a certain rank. Right. It's just better, to be honest, just rank everything if you really want a job because what if your rank is not that high and other people got your jobs, at least you'll still get something if you rank everything. Right. Basically, if you list down everything. Now, let's say if you just list out of 240 jobs, you just list what, like 70 but you're not even in that rank, then likely you won't get a job. So if you're, if there are 240 jobs and you rank 100 and 90 might as well just rank everything just to be sure that you get a job. So at the end of the day, it's just one year and likely you'll be able to transfer if the place isn't that good. I think more important is that you get a job, um, with the, with the, um, if it's not on your preferred list, they will, they will not, they will like, if it's on the not preferred list, they will not give you a job offer at all for that. So if, for example, if you're ranked number one and you put nothing in your preferred in your in preferred list, they will not give you any slots at all. So you do have to put something into your, if, if you're rank, like if you rank 50 for example, I would say just rank at least like Well, I, what I did was like, I would run at least 20 more because I was a bit paranoid in that sense. But I would. So if you ran 50 put 70 you know, consider that like everyone has taken your, your preferred slots or like everything and then think that you m maybe you're gonna get the 50th 1. That's just how II thought of it. So just rank everything, everything that you're ranking is. So like if you're ranked 90 um rank 90 slots or yeah, if you're rank five, rank 55 slots, that's just about it. Because if it's a not, you said if you five, you'll rank five slots, I think you can just rank more than that though. You can definitely rank more like I would go like 50 like at least 10 above, above your ranking. Um But if it's in your not preferred list, they will not, uh they will not offer you a job. It's, it's the same thing for uh training applications here. Basically, if you put something in your not preferred list, you won't get, you won't get a job in that offer. So if you don't, if your rank isn't that good, might as well rank everything. Like let's say I'm applying for training this year. And if I manage to get a slot, to be honest, I'll rank everything. If there are like 100 20 slots, I'll rank everything even if there's a place that I don't wanna go to, I'll rank everything. Uh, that's because I want the job. So if I'm the last lot, at least if it's not my, if I don't, if I don't wanna go there, but I still wouldn't mind going there at the end of the day, I'll still rank it. So that's basically how it works. II forgot to mention this, but there is something called like a clearance round. So sometimes those 240 slots, for example, they're not all the slots available. So sometimes there are like during the application process and even towards the end, sometimes there are are slots that open up. For example, that's when, when you can do the, you can do the re ranking of all of those, like you can ran all of those slots again, but similar in such a way that they do prefer it in your ranking. So people, for example, 240 the, the, the no, the ones who are like I would say those in the two eighties can probably still get a job. So you do have to um you do have to, to watch out for, for clearance rounds if your ranking is a bit is, is low. So th that uh because slots do open up at, at the end, but some of them might not be great slots to be fair because um the their locations might not be great or the rotation like the mix of the rotations might not be great. But th that you can think about that. Um uh If your, if your rank isn't within the, the available slots for runs rounds, um any, any other questions, I think I would advise, I think it's a good program, but I would also advise to not put all your eggs in one basket. So while you're applying for this, because it has a lot of, you know, rounds where they filter you off. Like if you don't meet the ST DSS JD, cut off and things like that, then you might not be able to proceed to interview. So while you're doing this, I mean, it's nice to, to go for this but also apply for other jobs as well. Uh Apart from this just so that you're, you're not just fully depending on this. And if you don't get in, then it's just a waste of time. So you can, you can apply for, you can apply for jobs and you can apply also for FD. Stand alone. I personally won't recommend that you apply for training, higher training right away. When I, when I mean, higher training, like let's say GP straight away or I MT right away or, or psych right away. It's, it, it really takes time to adjust in the NHS. And I'd, to be honest, because the expectation if you start at that level is that you're an ST one equivalent, there are expectations and you also want that in your first A RCP. Basically your first year of evaluation, it's a good evaluation. And if it's a bad evaluation for the first year, because you were mostly adjusting, then that's with you forever in your, you know, training era. So it's still better to, especially, you know, if you're not, if you're not like REG equivalent, you don't, you don't have the Royal College of, even if you do, I would still suggest like the reg I meet, they start at least at a trust grade reg level and then they apply for trading once they get the understanding of the NHS because it's not just about knowledge, a lot of it, it's really about understanding the system, understanding the different social nuances, honestly. Yeah, the process is there, there's so much to unpack and you don't want that your, your, your, the expectation of the staff of the nurses is that you're an ST one level. But in terms of your function, you're like an F one and you are teaching, you, you do have to know about certain laws, for example, like because I'm doing old age psychiatry, now you have to do know when to apply for like a section one or a section uh sorry, a section two or a section three or, or when to do like the deprivation of liberty, all of those things. And if you apply for a higher level that those things might be expected of you and you might not be too sure and, and definitely, like, you could go to like Tribunal Court and stuff and I would say that it's, it's much easier because as an F two, they don't expect you to, to do that. Like, for me, they don't expect me to, to, like, be able to put someone under section two or, or, or do, like, they do expect me to do adults, but they do like give you the training for it and, and all of that. So they don't expect so much from you as an S NF two honestly. So it's a good way to like, really get to know how the system works. And even if you, let's say you're a non trainee, ST one, but the, the expectation of a trainee and a non trainee is different and when you're a non trainee, you really have more time to adjust. So I personally, I would advise for those in the job hunt during this time, go for, uh, f two posts, go for ST one posts. But, um, better if it's a nontraining or at least a standalone post rather than going into training right away with a lot more expectations and being so overwhelmed. Uh, once you start. Mhm Yes. Anything else? Well, thank you very much. F I think this was a very helpful talk and I hope that it helped a lot of people as well. Do you mind dropping your email? Oh, ok. It's all my email is there. Uh Yeah, if you guys have any questions, just please feel free to email me. I usually reply quite fast. So yeah, just let me know. Right. Well, thank you everyone and I hope you all have a good day. I don't think there are any more questions cause no one's really, no one's really typing. Just let me know. Ok, bye. Thanks everyone guys. Bye.