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Okay. I hope you all have a chance to review the posters in the poster hall during our break. And but he didn't get chance. We're gonna have another post of you and break later on this afternoon. And so we'll start off with the nets. Next. Speakers, um, start off with at Doctor Lee, who is a physician and and a chest clinical and intra preneurs on the cof ound er of Medic You, which is a national organization teaching medical professionals three D printing His work on cardiovascular three D printing has also been published on Presented Internationally and after he completed his foundation training at Saint Thomas is hospital. He, um, took a masters in health tech on deep learning on the man's rolls. Leading operations at Guys on ST Thomas is Clinical Innovators Network. He also co founded a new venture to live in a Ford a ble ultrasound training models. And he's also recognized as a head I p 3535 future digital health leaders on diesel, selected as the incoming National Medical directors, clinical fellow at the NHS Transformation Directorate, where he'll be working at on the next national additional structure in addition to all of this, and it's free time. He also runs into channel. Creating Resource is for medical students and doctors on did A He'll be giving us a talk on health innovation, digital transformation on a I on education initiative. So I'll pass on to Doctor Lee whenever you're ready. Thank you. Thanks for the introduction. Ever on. Great to be here today. I think before I start, I I won't put my slides. I think this is the right one. Uh, skips, like right. Well, is the best one. But I was just gonna say four. I start, I just wanted to say huge. Thanks for the invitation to speak here. I think the Northwest Foundation for um So you have done a fantastic job print this together on and also just thanks to fill in the metal team. Because, of course, that the classroom is fantastic and has allowed us to all be here today. Um, so yeah, my name's Matt. I don't think we're to port a part in terms of levels. I'm only enough three this year, but I guess, um, the journey that I took to get here was Isn't it interesting and I sort of done various things along the way, which I really enjoyed it. I hope the share a bit about it. Um, but I am going to talk about a few things today. Um, so I think that, um, you know, medicine is as a professional, industry is changing quite rapidly, and I think we as most should, and Joe should be able to embrace that. So, be speaking about, um Well, I guess is what I want to do today is the challenge of perceptions of your Korean medicine in terms of your role in how it will change and emphasized the hatred in 80 of a career path, A suppose it in and both of you might be already sounding career path in certain specialty or dead cells becoming academic and do a PhD. Some of you might be a little hesitant about the forecast of the any chest. What this means for your career on door, considering doing things outside of mention. I think this is that's all fine. Honestly, the way you navigate through career part, is it something that is talking medical school or anywhere longer training? Uh, that's a doctor for that matter, and I think it's actually quite the opposite. I would say that the often encourage you to follow straight back down whatever has been set before, so I I wanna I guess touch on those those aspects and also try and draw from personal experience is it's just in practical advice on how you can look beyond this if this is something you are planning to do. So I suppose if you finish here today with, you know, after hearing me speak and you you feel more empowered and starts about what you want to do in your career where you want to take it, then I guess I'll you know, I'll be I'll be happier that I was able to impact that in a little bit. So I don't forecast this. Talk to me taking the entire power. I think I'd like it's probably at 30. Supportive. About 30 to 40 minutes is probably enough for my slides, and then I'd like to open it up. Just any questions. I think that I, um I d happy to hear from any of you guys. I think there's a bit of an issue with questions because the verification but Obviously I'll leave like my email and then Twitter on Grandpa and for anyone I want to reach out individually. So great. Um, so I think I would like to start the presentation overall by posing a question too. All of you, which is that I I know we, you know, as clinicians were fairly junior, and we've only been practicing for a year to three years. But we have an idea, through medical school What the professional medicine looks like what the role of a doctor is. And I suppose from from our colleagues, you know what? How that has changed in the last few years. So what I want to everyone to think about for second is how do you think we will be treating patients in 30 years on, You know, do you think will be the same as today is the way we practice medicine, uh, going to be the same as the way that we are seeing patients on. I think this is important because as unions will be practicing for another 30 support of years in our careers and ah, like and change in 30 to 40 years. So I think it's always important Teo, um, to forecast sort of the part of the landscape that you are going to be in. Um And I think the reality is that the field of medicine is changing really rapidly. And I think that this is in the terms of what we do. Um, who does it on dot How we doing? So the what we do is is more of, you know, kind of toss that were performing how these are changing. So, for example, you know how we are delivering treatments. One example is when you're delivering PCI or angioplasties, you know, nowadays, more previously were not previously, but now, as a standard sort of, ah, gold standard, it's you go through the radio vein or several days you should a catheter in and then you put the stent in order, balloon or whatever. Um, you know that's not transitioning into, um, robotic guided PCI, which is where robot doesn't for you. And all you do is handle the joystick. Know the technology is changing the way that we transfer weight, deliver the care to our patients Similarly of telemedicine, uh, has disrupted the entire way that we don't ever care into the consultation room Exelon by Kobe very much. But we now we're able to see patients from their own homes, and that has massive implications about how we deliver a camp where we deliver it. The middle one, I think, is ah is interesting, is the subject of quite low controversy. Obviously, I think you know you. If if any of you guys are on Twitter or, uh or around the junior doctor Subreddit, you'll see a lot of talks about of position associates and advanced nursing care. Advanced nurse practitioners, Um, and maybe some people who are, I guess, ah bit concerned about their increasing responsibilities, but also the implications of these responsibilities on people like us, which, as you know, doctors on bowel. We oversee their roles of prescribing, for example, and how they sort of people are concerned about been taking up small spaces on our road. So, for example, so the people involved in the delivery of care essentially will will be different in the future because it may not necessarily be that the task being performed today by us will be will be the same time that we're doing tomorrow. On that evident in the in the cream, I think, um and yeah, I think how we do it. Um, how we deliver care is gonna be very different as well. Um, automation, telemedicine. Ah, a lot of administrative tasks might be awesome. It's for example. So So you've already seen the change. I think the you know, you you've heard from the 60 or consultant about how in this day is kind of called diagnosis than the images ultrasound. Now, juniors are nowadays or just reliance on CT is and rise. And and, uh, I don't have that same clinical prowess. Well, yes. To a certain degree, I I agree with that statement. But also it's just because medicine in the field has has changed. Um, on does not for a bad thing, I think I do. I agree that maybe there are nuance skills that are being lost art, but I think overall, we've made medicine safer. Um, as as an industry. And I think that's reflected in the way we we we practice medicine as as, you know, sports. So, um, here's just here is ah, diagram that I have taken from a book strategy and healthcare. It's one of the harvest Harvard Business review books and it's Ah, it's Not School Britain by Christian Cymbalta and Kennedy. I think it was titled to Drop. Keep Innovation. Um, and I think this is quite a good representation of the the aspect I'm trying to tease, cuss in terms of how how it changes. So this is a graph of Ah, the X axis time versus complexity and died of diagnosis and treatment, and you can see that they're multiple levels on the tradition. Ated boxes are essentially the performance that the patient's needle can use. The service that we're providing the level of specialized service on down over time. Um, the standard of practice in our knowledge increases, and I think this is a normal part of human progression. Think technological advancements improve our standard of care and our students of treatments on day as the field of practice continues to accelerate, specialized task that were previously thought to be difficult become seems more trivial on are standardized to afford, ever. So specialists now have to do these trivial task on are pushing because of the advancement of technology and not knowledge. I'm so into cute to increase efficiency of trash. That's the task are passed up to last well trained professionals on. Do you see this at all levels now in modern medical practice, doctors handing over less specialized tasks which I guess, traditionally, junior doctors would have done. Two MPs and PAS MPs and pas having over to admin start, admit, start being Ah, maybe displaces aren't task by automation. Um, Andi advertising automation and maybe certain click, click toss now being, uh, no well to step down to a patient care so expert patient care. So it's a natural process in healthcare and to an extent, all industries and I, As a term, it's called innovation. That and it's prevalent in all industries on do Certainly, no less. So. The reality is that the way we're delivering healthcare on the models that we are delivered them through will be incredibly difficult at difference in 30 years, not least because of the technology, but because of the systemic, more remodeling that will take place to adapt to increasing demands, new tools, new specialties and conditions and new priorities on. But I would argue that it needs to, because the way we provide care is unsustainable and we have an increasing disease burden with increasing reliance and need from alcohol system. So So, yeah, medicine is a field is no static. Now what this means for you and future doctors'? Well, I I I've identified five points here that May that that's relevant to us as a profession, I would say, Obviously, this is this translates to any other professions I think we weigh Might have a few other, um, uh, occupations here. So just use use our occupational therapists or promises in which is still perfect. Me a couple, Essentially, I think important to note that, uh, what you end up doing is may not be what is being done now. And in some cases, actually, the thing that you might end up specializing and hasn't even because of you, you might be that person that that pushes that sort of innovation to become standard practice. So you just have to be aware that the status quo does not necessary. Remain this at school. Um, and as such, the skill sets needed for future careers will likely be different from those needed today. Like I touched on previously, I think, um, you will. Oh, I guess several the activities that you were previously responsible for doing. Maybe you may be displaced by other lower skilled professionals or technological tools. On. Conversely, you'll be asked to trip tusks that you were not trained for a year in your training course. Uh, or teaching or or any aspect of your career? Yeah, just following on from the skill sets. I think, um, you know, a specific is traditionally clinical experience, always been one of the highest valued, uh, abilities of conditions. And I think this, uh, may know hundreds and be the case for the future as the job description changes. So I know you know, some people might think that I think of what I'm saying. A slightly controversial I think it's, you know you can for sure you can all you expect that seven. I agree it is. But what I would say is that there's no doubt that there is shifting in the medicine in the medical industry, um, and changes something that really isn't inevitable. I think there was a quote that said, I can remember who said it, but I think it went along the lines of the only thing inevitable This change and medicine. No, no, no different on. There are no changes inevitable there a couple ways of a couple of mentalities. I think when it comes to change very much as individuals as well as you know, larger organization societies, the natural instinct is it can be very easy to resist it. But there is also the people of accepting change and on embracing it. Um, you know, how instead of fighting it being able to say, How can I best repair for it? How can I be the best? Uh, physician, 10 years, Given the changes so I can deliver the best care of my patients on how can I shape it would be a part of in the shaping of this. Um, Then there's, you know, you can obviously resist it. And this is this maybe slight, controversial as well. But I think maybe the Petraeus against pas creep is, um, is, um, sort of the reluctance to change Understandably, because I think as as junior is, you know, we only lasted for a few years on. It's very difficult to to see to accept that someone who may be less less trained than you or who has worked less hard than you are hasn't necessarily mean qualifications, You know, they're taking up over your jobs. I think this is a problem with the system. And I think that sort of the the old world job roles, well, we need to be shipped in future. Um, but, you know, um, through the things like innovative medical tools is is to deny patients the best possible care would say, um and and that's changes unnecessary driver to improve care and allow the any chest overcome, significantly increasing healthcare burdens on I've just put this picture in the top right here, which is a book by Eric Couple, who's, ah, physician in the US But he was commissioned for the top of the reports couple years ago, where they basically try to address some of the work force issues with digitization in the future to have to prepare the workforce. But this is one of the books that he's ah, he's written. It's very interesting. I would recommend if anyone was curious. Um, he didn't coin it. I think it's been around for a while, but the turned creative destruction, uh, he was one of the first to use in medicine. Um, and it's also a general term for a sort of how civilization is involved. But creative destruction, it's actually meaning, you know, innovation and new ideas will destroy current practices. Um, and I think this is this is a very true thing in in, uh, healthcare. So the roles of healthcare professionals of tomorrow We'll, lastly, different from what we know today. And I think this means that the skills that you need and the task that you're familiar with will also be significantly different. The curriculum. I think it's hugely outdated because it doesn't teach you anything about changing practices, technology innovation. Um, and the doctors of the future will no, no, only need got one will no longer only have clinical and communication skills just to be able to pass a specialty exams, but don't need technological flexibility that need managerial acumen on dyspepsia. Least know that beyond probably was present today. Um, and if the doctors of tomorrow want to be able to prepare for this, they need to be seeking out options is to build this because after moment, it's not something that is available in, uh, in training. So depending on what you achieve, what you want to achieve this could mean looking outside practice, right? I think what I wanted to highlight here is that medicine has always been a very traditional straight part. I think it it it feels natural for it to be so because you work so hard against medical school and then throughout the five years you're working towards finishing medical school, passing those buddy exams and then you can you get to happen enough to, And it's all about possibly stepping through hoops and ercp to to get to the next level. And then you're immediately face the next hurdle, which is what I want to ST one or like plan bathroom. And then I have to be thinking about the one and then which against ST one you're on the run through, which means your history demonstrate heart or you think your last e three or whatever happens next. So it's very narrow, in a sense compared to industries where workers have a bit more flexibility and that allows us jump around. Um, and I think that the future career possibilities in will not necessarily be as narrow just because I think that, uh, will be valued in, uh and a variety of rolls. So like I touched on, um, it may be helpful to build on, uh, adjacent What options? You suggest a clinical practice. So be on clinical practice on. But, I mean, when I say that, I mean, beyond practicing medicine generals, the traditional roles of positions and western medicine that make you a great doctor, we're not necessarily great. Anything else? It means in working industry, that may not necessarily be patient basing or science based that require a difference. Abscopal zor a different approach or mentality. Um, and just before I go any further, I just a full disclaimer like, I I'm taking a nap. Three. I'm I'm probably gonna be staying, you know, applying. Especially training. Next up. My fellowship. I'm not sort of anti medicine. Okay, I I I just wanna highlight and exposed most of you guys because I didn't have that same exposure when I was a couple years down the line of the possibility that doctors could be something aside from just clinicians. Okay, so, you know, I'm still pro health care. In case anyone was like, Oh, you're trying to sell, allow, you know, sell all of us out of medicine. um So Okay, so I guess a couple of reasons why looking clinical practice is is well, I think first of all, most your it exposes you to double range of experiences and that, um, pasta creativity. And it will enables you to a beverage insights on creativity, other industries and sectors relied a unique perspective or a unique way of solving problems. Um, and on a personal level gives you get your options to be honest, give you options for opportunities for greater impact, which you may not naturally get as as a as as condition where you're seeing patients went to one, um on and just accept it gives the options of financial return. I think the public sector, obviously, you know, very meaningful work, but is limited by the government and TAXPAYERSMONEY. Whereas if you work in industry, that could be a significant factor. Excuse me. Um, on and yeah, because that gives you an individual 20 me on your career, Um, on dust, touch one, I guess, uh, some something else. That success of, like, modern day economic institutions real largely based off the market principles and supplying tonight then I think this applies to a heart situation as well. It feels like that. That sort of ah market is, uh, probably no free market right now, given how like local rates and stuff are, uh, are currently managed. But I think development you need compare instill set. The only clinical medicine gives you on and the other medics don't on this makes you more valuable because you can never just a guess and job to negotiate rules that better with your life, brother and have to conform to the standard from them. So when I say, you know, adjacent career polyps, it could be could be many things it could be within click on medicine, which is academia, research, education, clinical trials. It could be just adjacent to it where, if you work in industry, could be things like healthcare consulting. Ah, product management. Clinically digital safety officers for pharmaceutical companies. Um, uh, you could work in tech as well, which is a very unique skips. I have skills, uh, which is, you know, coding software development back in from sent or advising. It's a clinical roll. It doesn't necessarily have to be a technical rule with an attack company. I know a consultant who is working in Amazon as a principal medical consultant on he advise from the critical aspect. So the logical rose rolls essentially, um, and outside of clinical medicine as well. I think there are a lot of opportunities that allow you to difficulty dollar difference of skills. So stressed a consulting through companies like paying McKinsey BCG a little while and, um uh, law people do like JD or Masters, and then they are able to practice medical log, for example. Um, on entrepreneurship, I think, is a really interesting one that is probably seeing more, more relevance, essentially starting to be yourself, solving the problem for yourself in scaling that, and it's a whole different world. I won't go into into it too much today, but I think they're definitely love opportunities for physicians and doctor like ourselves, too, to venture out, know, even just positions. I mean, like any, uh, any help, your professional for anyone, for that matter. So a lot of opportunities out there to develop different skills, but beyond which career path you choose, I think I'm the first thing that really matters. At the end of the day is, uh, your own personal values and how this fits into the wider system. Um, and medicine is a career that really never stops to ask you what you want. And if you don't stop back career trajectories, to ask yourself is very easy to get lost in the system. Beyond that, I think medicine may seem like or, you know, right now is, you know, doctors and constantly causing hurdles. But at the end of the day, it's only a small part of your life is a career on. It's not the only thing that you have to offer to the world. So I think introspection is really important. But introspection, uh, with regards to your career as well in terms of how you want to shake your introductory, uh, I'm obviously very pro sort of autonomy and, uh, individual, uh, ability. But, you know, if you think about the restrictions of training for a second, you know, ask yourself, what do you like doing? And what do you want to achieve in your career? Uh, not maybe within medicine or outside of medicine, on what is your strength? That is your unique contribution to society, A really good diagram or we're sort of concept is the constant sneaky guy. Um, which is basically, you know, talking about what? Your contribution to society, societies, basic things. You enjoy your good at what the world needs. And I think this is this is entirely relevant. Um, we have obviously been trained to provide a very sort of service as doctors, but that doesn't mean that that is all we do. Um, you know, we love medicine to certain extent, because we've been through medical school and bolted to apply for it. But that doesn't actually mean that that is the A video and all for our careers. So I thought I would just wrap up in the last 5, 10 minutes, just my share of my personal journey. I talked to them about, you know, the big redefining rule of the physicians and how you look outside it. I think sometimes it's easier to understand from a personal perspective. And then I finished by sharing practical tips as well about when you could do when you're if you're looking to to get a little information. So, um, I went to a Bristol on day I finished. My, uh I have two in Saint Thomas is, uh, 2021. Um, on. And yeah, like I I think through on medical school, I always wanted to do interventional radiology. I think everyone about before I started medical on, I should shape line type of what we offer it. But I've always been someone that's interesting. That's been interested in and use. Technology is 12 on and in third year, I think one of the s S e I came up, Uh, s S E slips came up on my my, uh, contact one of the researchers and get, uh, research role in the three d printing lab. And I'm basically yourself talk myself out of three prints that summer and segments on. Then I worked in a few projects myself and I published in presented it, which was, which was really fun, but also taught me a lot about, you know, attack in the role of check in medicine. Um, I went on with a few medical students too far. Teo, create medic you, which is essentially an organization that we with the teachers, medical professionals and medical students. How's the three print and segment on. It's a great tool. It's actually for learning, and that's me and also a long time has lot of news cases and medicines such as preop planning or anatomical More thing. Uh, on decreasingly mawr three printing was obviously very relevant. Overcovered 19 as well. But we we manage Teo teacher Quite you, uh, medicines and, um, on devolved a large number of people across the country, which is amazing. I think it was really interesting to see so many people aligned with that interest. Um, by the way, there is. Ah, there's a session after this. I think in the works obsession where a couple of my colleagues in the national team will be leading a three different succession. So you guys interested You should You should check that out. They'll be introducing three printing. They'll be showing you How do you printed moles? Actually made in terms of segmentation process on. If you guys interested slowed up, the more you can sign up for the workshop to them. Um, yeah. So just as a quick summary, those are the things I done in the past. So I joined the clinic entrepreneurship program for Ah, my three printing ideas. 2020 on. I've also tried to look for me to ship rolls, Um, across different sort of, ah, aspects on do, um, section sections I've been working on, such as, you know, Dr Representatives for leading ah, click in debates network, which was essentially, um, a technological upscaling program for Start S O N E healthcare professional in Thomas is, uh, this year I'm actually doing a masters and help. The technology is where I'm working. It's essentially an engineer in computer science based degree, where I've just been learning deep learning and a I on do spend my days instead of, uh, you know, on the computer troubleshooting code instead of, uh, instead of looking at keeping occupations, which has been really interesting. But again, you know, I'm diversifying skills. That's the only different things being sold. Problems in unique aspect on done a couple of other things as well, including medicine. But your next year, I think, Well, actually, next month I'll be joining the transmission rectory as ah, uh, national medical directors Clinical fellow. I was the one year follow ship to work on digital strategy, and it's a leadership fellowship for for clinicians from two to ST Eights, which is ah, fantastic opportunity. Um, the reason I shared all this with you is because I was looking back through this recently, and I I realize that, you know, this is the common theme within, uh, this sort of popped out taken, which is that I'm interested in tech, uh, on medicine. I'm interested in a vacation and, uh, from solving on. I'm interested in being a shipping scale on so thinking back to sort of section side that we had a lot. I think I Someone who takes a long time out to to think about trajectories and personal thing that you know what What drives you, what makes you happy? And I think I know that I'm someone who is really what personal impacted scale on and building things that I want to do with anything that I'm gonna learn. Uh, if no everything on being driven by my own sort of success metrics, um, which can feel difficult when you're in medicine. Um, so I guess for, you know, just just summarize with that. I, uh I think medicine is a career is fantastic. And you really have a lot of little in fact, when it comes to managing patients, um but I I think. I just want to address the stigma that people always think that it's no okay to look outside medicine, because I personally think it is. I think that conditions should be encouraged to because it provides the diversity on, um, on that regard. I tried to leave by example, which is I I'm learning as much like hand and I you know, I love, uh, doing different things. Um, and I think it's right for me. And I think at the end of the day, that's all that really matters. So, yeah. Um, yeah, I think we're getting towards the end. So there may be a few of you who, uh, are, you know, looking at, uh, different opportunities. Uh, some of you are, you know, really want to be expert conditions and surgeons, and I think that's completely fine. I think you know, it's definitely worth the time. And it's, you know, it's an incredibly rewarding career. But for those who may also want to be involved in other things like management, like like tech, like like, uh, uh, various other aspects of tasting medicine. Uh, are you looking for, um, opportunities to diverse it by your your actor or skill set. Um, they're actually quite a few ways to get started on that. I don't think is immediately explicit to you on. I think a lot of us who have been down this road or, you know, have to discover individually. I think the easiest way to jump houseboy fellowships on so a couple that you can look forward like the national dressed Chemical Fellowship was excellent shape, color ship. Uh, digital topple digital dealership is really good as well for people who have ideas, releases additional innovation. Um, and interestingly, a lot of industry, uh, you know, industry left clinicians industry love, high inclinations because it's such a diverse go set. And it's, uh, kind of like a good credentials, basically. But I know Babylon and companies like Deepmind have had a fellowship program, so four, So it's always worth having a look out on the 10. For example, the study budget for courses of interest, um, is one that you could look into an as an F one f two a swell. So you know that you're probably subsidized for one, of course, is in addition to a less why you have foundation program. But there is a separate. At least it was from my truck because I was I was at South Thames in London where I got a coating course funded by my chest. So the opportunity, essentially, you just need to look for them to get that covered. Um, and they're device programs out there that are really there for, um, conditions to branch outside medicine. So the entrepreneur program is fantastic. You have an idea. There's additional leadership academy, probably a bit more toward the senior side. So we're looking into on bed. I pee and a health informatics sector has a quite a few hours. Well, that's a bit more multi disciplinary eso they really encourage not conditions. But I've been on a tech start into it to get bolt. Um, aside from that, I think online courses always worth spending time during the coding doing business strategy. Think if you're late in but course era, for example, python Course I That's how I started crying and I didn't know how to code. Ah, you're half ago. I learned myself and sort of been on steroids this year, uh, catching up with everyone else. Um, if something, you're really interested in a degree is really helpful is, well, this could be things like MSC on MBA or J D. Because it gives you that credential that when the door for other opportunities um, mentorships and coffee, that's really helpful. And it's always worth reaching out to people in the field that interested in or even just people who you think might be in positions that you would consider in the future. Um, one thing I found is that people are incredibly, incredibly receptive and helpful. Uh, and in the world of medicine, I think, you know, I guess we're all by their bias nice or a compassionate people. But yeah, like reaching out to people by email or think did People are surprisingly responsive on going to help. So don't be afraid to to reach out to people and just ask for advice. Followed up on desk ablation. Mentorships. Impossible. Because those people that will really help you and guide you and clarify your career direction for yourself. Um, and finally I think, just, you know, problem solving is always gonna build the toe, have that standard. Uh, well, I guess that touches an entrepreneurship If you find a problem that's where it's solving and you solve it and you go on something you can find a career from bad as well. But it's It's just a bit of the mentality shift in terms of, you know, because medicine doesn't really encourage problem solving, encourages learning algorithms and guidelines on applying those and pattern recognition. But there's something to be said about solving problems and thinking about problem that scale breaking them down, just aggregating. If you're interested in that, there's a really good book called a Bulletproof problem. Solving it's more sort of is run by consultants or extra salt. It's But, you know, I think those abilities and skills are relevant. One plus, um, no, she's going to get the borders are couple of porting pieces of practical advice. Um, medicine is a rat race. Uh, no one stops you. You If you keep going down and you don't take any time out, you'll find yourself in the end and thinking what? If so, don't be afraid to take time out training. If it's valuable to you and you see an opportunity that you want to do, don't feel like you have to apply for that specialty program. just because your your colleagues are or you feel like you don't get done with trading and then evaluate. Um, I think it's much more valuable to do these things, really in your career. So you can work alongside that, um, and shake your career around whatever you want to do. Um, for example, I'm doing after you right now, taking that for next year. That was the plan I had, Uh, enough to I had a and I'm suppose it's in Thomas. It's which I was I was this close to taking, um But I didn't because I didn't feel like I was ready. And that was probably, in retrospect, probably, you know, the best decision by I had because I would have been crazy grounds out. Uh, doing I'm too right after after. I was very tired of that, too. Um, if you're interested in something, don't wait for permission because no one will give it to you. So you know, if you want to do something, just reach out someone learn it for yourself. Learn a skill that allows your contributing somewhere. Go to go to conference, go to act on, speak to people, ask people how to get involved. You know, the number of opportunities have opened up to me just because I sent in the mail to someone saying, Hey, I'm interested. Clinician, can I help you? Uh, what do you need that is, uh, helping a lot on? I wouldn't be. I would have gone in studio printing. I wouldn't have done the clinical invades network. Probably million other things I would have done if I hadn't just written a random enough to someone. Um and yeah, just be proactive about those, uh, those reaching out. Um, yeah, networking has always been good medics, but I think it's actually really helpful if you're looking for opportunities outside medicine, because the the network that you have unlocks a lot of doors to So what you're trying to achieve and where you want to go on the condition, the form just meeting people on conferences or also just, uh, you know, on linked investing people who might be able to help you. But it's always helpful. Um, and yeah, just touching my last point from the last night as well. Shifting toward the problem sort of mindset, seeing, uh, things in a new new weight in healthcare on not only just wrote memorizing and on and putting, uh, symptoms together for a pattern recognition for diagnosis. You know, train yourself to people about to look at, uh, the one contacts, but also, um, how you can fix things for yourself instead of relying on, um, someone else to do for you are waiting for that thing to be done for you. Um, so I think I just brings me to the end of this presentation. Um, I think the main take away is really only that, uh, your job in the next 2030 40 years or is probably gonna be very different. And I think that it's worth embracing this and being a part of the change and learning things that will get you ahead of this shift. Because whether you're on board with their know it's gonna happen. Um, at least I think so. I speculate I'm protect, um, but, you know, I think it's gonna happen in some point on. That's why I think that developing a unique skill set, um, allows you to advocate for yourself and your own career on diverse. If I and your experiences will provide a unique, valuable perspective that allows you to do different things from your colleagues on us. Create a career that you want. I think finally, it's just that it's okay to have a normal the new career is okay to take time out. Um, Andi, it's okay to do different things outside of medicine. If you want to know whether that's part with that's music, where that's Ah, business strategy, consulting tech, everything that you do and everything. You spend time and will shape your, uh, the way you think in back in different ways. And I think that's okay because I will add value. Um, we need to overcome the stigma within medicine and the old generation back. It's no okay, Teo be distracted from from, uh, anything outside of medicine because it is. And I think that those experiences or what will make you unique and valuable in the future and, um, on to make your career the most interesting. So that's it for me. Um, thank you so much listening on. But I know you know, if you guys have any questions or anything for you to reach out to be on this room, Switzer lengthen or drop me email I'm always happy to chat, boys. Happy interest here by interesting ideas. Um, Andi. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Thank you very much, Doctor Lee. That was really an interesting talk and touched upon a lot of really important points in terms of our career development in the future and how it's, you know, it's it's a lot easier now. It's actually take time out of normal training to do different things, depending on people's interest. So I was really interesting and some really helpful tips and advice there. So thank you for that. Um, I'll pass on to Daisy to see if there's any questions in the chart on, but if anybody as well what if If it's okay as well if we can put your email in the chart so that people can have asked to ask questions on there, they keep popular e mails. Okay? Yeah, yeah. Course yet, You know, like probably the ones I use the most appropriate. Yeah, thanks. I don't really think it's so much for the talk. It was really very interesting. And you have the very interesting career has to get to where you are. So thank you for sharing that we've got one question from Queen. She just asked, What are your tips now? Should vice for time management balancing around your foundation Training technology's on co finding Medicare. Uh, time management strategies. Let me think, Uh, it's always a bit difficult with medicine, isn't it s Oh, I was Yeah, I was working full time at the time. Uh, I was sitting around more CPI is well within the best one. I don't have any sort of strict time management tips because I think everyone works slightly differently. Uh, what I can say worked for me is that, um on my days off, um, I would be working on the things I you know, such a medic you for, like, the tech side, or like learning coating on down my days on. You know, if I was on call, I wouldn't do anything. I sort of everything within within it, um, the thing that probably allowed me to get the most out of my time was that the things I chose to incorporate into my schedule with, like be, uh, the coding and the three printing. Uh, those are things I genuinely really enjoyed on go. When I got back to work the end of the day or, uh or, uh, spending some time in my day off. You know, it didn't feel like I was needing. I wasn't expending energy to do something that I just had to be done, in a sense. So, you know, it was something that really enjoyed. It felt like a bit of a hobby to me, and and so that was really the most helpful thing. Um, but aside from that, I mean, yeah, it's just I guess I guess good planning is also help with you. Have you have an idea of of deadlines, For example, you can get things out of the way that it needs to be done on Dwork around that yet. So I can't be more specific, but I think I think that is it's a very personal thing. Time, actually. And those don't think that works. That's great. Thank you. I've got a question for all myself. Um, it's obviously innovation in med tech is going to revolutionize healthcare and obviously, must clinicians, we should try and keep up to date as much as possible on I think in that sense, the foundation program and probably the medical school curriculum is falling behind on. Is there any way that you think of my be useful like a high? We can increase pretty into foundation training and medical education? That's a That's a really good question and something that I've I've been thinking about a lot. Um, there's the The answer is it's very difficult and it's filled with doxy. Um, so when I started medical, it was It was because I saw a lack of technological education within the curriculum and support medical students and your doctors, and I wanted to be able to provide that in a capacity that didn't necessarily need a lot bureaucracy or rigidity through medical. For example, the issue with curriculums in med school is that every specialty that you go take through is heavily guarded by the world colleges of their respective specialties on every sort of weak that your allocated in is very rigid in terms of allocation from those colleges and the medical school itself. So actually making changes dignify really difficult, uh, endeavor. Um, that's not to say, though, that there isn't a huge drive. I would say to, uh, deliver curriculums that are being you know, that a bit more upstate. Um, and I'm hoping the actual next year in my rule as, ah national Medical drops fellow in the transformation director it I'll be able to have some say in sort of the training aspect. Um, I had a really interesting conversation with the sheet information Officer Help Education England. I was in a conference last week, Uh, who you know, is very pro innovation curriculum, and you say, you know, it's very difficult, but there are a lot of things in the works, so I think in the next couple of years we'll start seeing a shift in the curriculum because it's never too late. You know, the way we practice medicine is very different now, in the skills that we will need is going to be very different now on. I think I'll start seeing aspect of it implemented. But the easiest way for conditions such as ourselves that are in the stage of a career, probably really, is to go out and find options for ourselves. Um, so things like all noncoding courses, Medicare, three D printing and 30 segmentation, if you're excited about something you're interested in, come to the workshop afterwards and you can sign up for a few sessions. Um, I have a couple of colleagues who are running a great thing called Cold Med. I run and run and Joe, they they basically it's going course for clinicians to learn job, and it's something that you can cover by your study budget. Um, I'm just getting involved in research, uh, to do a tech. Um, so it's a long story. Short, I think three shift will happen. But if you're asking from a shorter time frame now, the best way to get involved probably be correcting the proper shoes. It's thank you very much. There's a few more questions on the chat. Um, so, um, all these last from your experience with your thoughts about less than full time training versus wife, three young old side without signing medicine? Career development. Okay, I think that's a simple time. Training is a really good idea. I think they just recently passed the motion. That means that you don't need to get a reason for less than vestibule time trading. So you convince you just be like I only one of your 80% and they have to compensate that, um I think a pros and cons that differ with each each person's situation. I think that on one hand you can argue that it's some people might want to smash through training and then just start at the city and then look opportunities outside. Some people might see opportunities now that are available that would allow them to diversify their skill sets or do things that they're interested in. And they don't want to get a clinical medicine so they go less than full time. Um, but then as a result that you take longer for your training, and that sort of prolongs. In a certain point, you're just like, Well, this has been dragging on for so long. Um, I would say that, you know, it's it's a good idea, and I think the flexibility is very welcome for trainees because it wasn't previously. It was very difficult to get less than full time unless you were, uh, you were pregnant or mother or you had my care. Health needs. Um, if something arises as a junior that you're think is worth it, then I think it's good good ideas to lessen full time. And I don't think like I said you should be concerned about that. That's straight career partner finishing before everyone else. Because it doesn't matter. At end of the day, you become a consultant before you foresee, and then you're gonna do the same thing. 20 years. So So you know, there's no rush. Um, So if you But I guess I asked for my personal journey if I saw something that came up, like, you know, being able to work part time in a company that I wanted to work in or industry Or maybe an NHS map here, a role that interested me. Well, maybe a PhD. Quite time. You know, I would I would have been going to lessen full time, but I think I'm depressed or every individual. Good. Thank you. Um, couple more questions, which could and course. Do you recommend, um, I did a really good one on It was basically I think, uh, let me find that. You know, I think it might have been coursera or what? Um, sorry. Just, uh it's either coursera or you to me that I did a pipe in course on, and that was pretty good to get. Get scripts and then there a couple of really good machine learning ones that I started this Well, um, Andrew mg, Andrea And he's machine learning course is probably the most famous. It does actually quite difficult mats. And I think you really don't need such difficult masters, A condition that's pretty good as well. There's a Harvard CS 50 which is pretty good. I'm not in a person, but I've heard good things about it. Um, I would say it also depends on what you're trying to achieve with their coding. Um, if you're just looking to learn active woman, for example, uh, you're probably better off looking at job are swift flutter. But if you're looking at wider data, science applications or machine learning, been tightening is the way to go. And the ones I mentioned, probably the best way to start. Thank you. Could you talk a little bit about entrepreneurship opportunities, which you see that right there? Um, but I see her out there on tradition was a huge area, um, operative entrepreneur opportunities and probably everywhere because we need to do is find something that is lacking in the system, uh, or a tool that makes things that sits on the current standard by a significant amount. And then you have to be able, Teo, create something, you know, back in, back in, sustained and scale it on. But all these different aspects, like like how you responding or how you scale how you manage the supply, train and stuff. Um, in terms of opportunity, I think you only need to identify something like a problem to begin. And then once your once you begin, there are a lot of really helpful sort of programs. Such and it just kind of entrepreneur a gram, but also a few Ah, incubators accelerators. Um, so your university have one. So the kings colors London. I know where doing losses has a kink 20 which is a really good celebrate, sir. Um, but they're also loved grants available from people. That kind of a UK, um who are, you know, they're basically happy to help you, uh, in terms of getting that business acumen, which we don't necessarily have when we start. So so, yeah, in terms. Opportunity, I think, uh, look for opportunities. Um, in terms of things, this problems to solve, change that mentality. And once you find something that you think is worth it? Validate opportunity. I speak to the people that you want to deliver that before, Um and then you can think about opportunities through different programs. Um, like it. Like I said, like, it's a huge It's a huge area with lots of different aspect. It's not a straight forward and sort of you haven't idea You scale it. It works. I could probably talk to another like ours, You about it. And I still didn't get anywhere close like I'm still very much like at the beginning. Um, but you know, if anyone's curious point out for a program is a good place to find out more, That's great, Thank you. So I think that's a lot of questions for now. I thank you very much for giving that tall contribute inspired, hopefully least a couple of Teo going to Mad Tank or at least looking Teo. I think we'll move on to their work shock now. Yeah, Thank you for having me. Hello. Back over to HIPPA. Thanks Daisy. And