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doing really well. It's a long day. We've got one final speak of you. I'm really, really pleased to have us have her with us today, darling. And remotely. We've got Rosamund to do Kitty Deborah and I've been trying to get regimented to speak since last year now, and I'm so pleased that she could be here today. Rosamund is a British grassroots campaign for asthma or awareness on the impact of air pollution on respiratory health. Her mission began in 2013 after the tragic death off a nine year old daughter, Ella Roberta, in 2020 a landmark inquest rule. The air pollution was a contributing factor to L. A death. Through her clean air campaign work, she has played a role in the expansion of the London London also lower emissions own. And this year, she is also a who advocate for a refill for health and their quality. So I'm really, really pleased to welcome Rosemond here today as our lost closing keynote speaker. Welcome, Rosemond. Thank you. Thank you very much for having me and thank you for saying my name so well Say is quite easy to pronounce my name and I definitely definitely appreciate that. Thank you very much for having me. And when Laura was on speaking, I was I was thinking, How do I How do I follow that? And those of you who don't know my story and the reason why I'm here today is my daughter is Ella Row Byetta. And she had one of the worst cases off asthma ever recorded in this country. And the state off hand lungs at nine at the postmortem looked a zit. She was a smoker. But as we all know, Ellery is, um, to the only person who is affected by appellation. See, you are literally in in the mist off this climate crisis because I see climate crisis as a health crises. And I believe it should be put upon every health care professional worker. However you define yourself, Teo, know about pollution and be empowered. Buy it. How have you know have the knowledge about it? What we're trying to do at the moment is we tried to change the curriculum. I work with the asthma teams in London and I work with NASA's and everyone and you know, being a former teacher. What? Not a former teacher I don't teach it secondary. I do a bit of lecturing. University is to empower people in in health so that they are able to speak to the patients. Um, this Sometimes when I speak, it's as if I'm speaking to people in respiratory. But my advice to them would be, if you have patients who are coming in constantly like my daughter was, one of the things you would do well to find out is where they actually live on what they are breathing it. And as I've been going along my journey, I'm starting to say that I have found out that we don't allow breathe the same. And I devised the TEM lung apartheid, which really upsets the surgeon folks. But it is true if you live closer to the main roads. Not only do you have about 15 or 20% more chance of getting lung cancer, even if you don't smoke, but the further away you live from, um, is it a busy main road? The less likely you are going to be impacted by air creation. But let let's be honest. Pollution has no borders and 70% off the UK currently are breathing in at some point or the other illegal levels off application. Now I'm gravely You've asked me to speak here because one of the ways to solve this issue is to get people in health to lobby people in parliament to make laws. Right now, those of you, if you do for me, you will know that there's a Baroness Jenny Jones. It was it has put a bill through private members. Well, um, through the houses of laws, it will get a second reading on the 20th of June. And we would like cleaner to become a a a a a human rights on. We believe if if we do that, then governments will then start taking this much of seriously. But ultimately what I personally believe is I think people in health have so much power more than they even know. I see this is similar to the tobacco crisis, and ultimately, hopefully we are going to have to wait on, you know, 40 years. But you must put pressure on people in Parliament who actually make the laws. And I think Norris point is what makes us happy. A Z. I have terrible hay fever. So it's No. You know, as much as I have a lovely garden, I can't always go into it because right now the pollen is very high. But what makes me happy is when I go into and any or in the hospital to see a doctor. And I don't see notes of Children on nebulizers and things like that. And I am sudden to say that since my daughter died the number or Children who die from asthma, that has not changed. We still have 1.1 million Children in the UK with asthma, and in London that number is at least quarter off a million and the figure off between eight and 12 deaths every year. That has not changed. So we have better medicines. We have experts and yet the number off Children dying. That hasn't changed. So that saddens me greatly. And if you work in respect tree, then you know that seeing Children you know, fight to breathe is quite on ordeal and really interesting. We are in 2022. Nobody should really be dying from asthma. Let's be honest there countries like Norway and friend and who have managed this, and it seems that the UK particularly. We have a terrible problem because when you look at the age group between 13 to 15, they are the worst for dying from asthma. And that number hasn't gone down. So I edge everybody. Look, absolution is the biggest environmental disaster off our time. Um, seven million people normally die prematurely. There was a recent study out. If those of you that course it in 2019, that figure went up to nine million people, which is a huge worry. Um, Professor Witty is going to be doing a report about airport Lucian on dope. You will come out. I think it's in September when his reports sent to come out. Because this matter is that concerning, we now know in areas off high, AARP allusion, people got co bit more severely, so that might solve one of the questions about brown and black people. Why they got over it so badly if the immune system was already impacted. Well, I I edge of your body in that when it comes to you application, you need to have the knowledge to educate your patients and you need to make your voice is had because if you can solve their pollution, you console most of the climate crisis. I don't want to take up too much of your time with you, our doctors and I don't think I'm there to educate you. Buy If you ever needed any information on asthma when you think it was respiratory, I have sadly become a next. But in that due to the death of my daughter. But I heard you to make your voice. Is hers in this matter on and please? Right now there's a government consultation out as I speak. It closed it on the 27th for June and used to do with their quality targets. No, only would I kind of like you to fill it in were also to share. It's I would like a many people. It's possible to fill it said otherwise, I feel as as if the government was a people don't care about this matter. Um, so it's very, very important that you get a many people to fill it It. I think I've spoken more than enough right now, so I'll be quiet. And if someone has some questions to us, thank you, Rosemond. Before we move on questions I've got one common actually kind of a question in south London, where I live in the bar of Southern Close that through the covert pandemic they've taken the opportunity and 72 create sort of pedestrian eyes, areas within within the street network. And although that initially felt good during lock down, now that people have started going out on their arm or cars on the road, I've actually seen much more traffic in certain areas along highways. One. I was main roads, especially where there are quite a few schools. There was actually a a big survey that went out in Southern asking what residents thought off this off these road changes enclosures on the overwhelming majority off. Survey respondents said that they didn't want these road closures to continue. We then got letters back that said this wasn't actually a poll. It's not really a democracy. We're continuing with the closures anyway. On it's in complete kind of. It's a complete conflict with what you've been talking about, and it really strikes me as clean air is not for everyone in Southern, with the changes that being made in the code endemic and it's quite heartbreaking to see, So it's not really a question more sort of on the on the ground reflection of what? What you've been talking about. Yeah, I can't comment on that. I mean, we all know we're not sitting home. Home owners are very, very powerful in this country. And hi, my name is a lot of them own cars more than one. And from where I'm sitting, it's a bit like we would like to drive our cars or whatever road we choose, but we don't want other people driving on our roads. Look, we have 38 million cars in the UK, so by shutting a few roads, is not going to make any difference to encourage people to use their cars less, maybe cycle of walk. That's getting better. The roads that ultimate the lead to end it's passing is now worse than when she was alive. And those of you who follow me, we know that three weeks ago tomorrow, I had probably one of the worst asthma attacks I've had in in in years and years and years and years, so this problem isn't going. But I think certain people have the year, or counselors and politicians so the less said about that, the better. But could I encourage people when they have some type of I know how hard you made its work to go to the welcome collection on Houston Road. There's on exhibition. They're called in the Air Teo October the 16th. So you've got time, but please go there and don't have and look, it's this topic where it covers it. Look absolution. A lot of it's about inequality, and we all know who suffers the worst. Let's be on this. So my hunch. I would like to think it's the scheme that started off initially. People might have had good intentions, but as I know, you know, being a former head of 61 might come up with certain things that might, you might think are great. And then when you do it is completely terrible. So maybe you can ask the question, Why are they keeping it when it's harming so many people, and especially those who live on the main road who are most impacted and a lot of our schools historically are on the main road, and I think it's absolutely appalling, but my critics will have something else to say about that. But there you go. The actual s I say about back the better. Thank you. We've got a question on line from Toby Basin. Other than moving house, is there much that people can do to protect themselves if they are living in an area with high pollution levels? Yeah, the moving house things Hey, be I mean, people say that to me a long time. I mean, look at the cost of living. Who's who's moving where? Well, not people who and that's that's an amount off money. Little people have to even live out of London outside of under to come in to London toe. Well, I guess you must always encourage, you know, the government will be great if they came up with, like, a walking Steve. We have a bit off on obesity crisis. Know everyone can cycle, but I drink a pandemic. We saw lots of walking need to educate parents who drive their Children to primary schools and especially, who lived the engine running. That's a no no and yeah, we can create cyclones, but I think ultimately it is owning less cars. But if you've noticed when you when you go to a foot WalMart or any sports march? There's not some advertising off cars. The greenwashing is going on the channels every single night. Look, the mere fact. They continue to encourage the public to buy cars, and they just either for it. So it saves it'll really. But then the government won't be surprised that I'm telling you, I'm you know, people are encouraged by cars and we have a bit off on addiction problem. So maybe just stop advertising class. That might be another solution. But maybe the government need to need by example. I'm sure when the prime minister got crave it and he was recovery, he said he was going to do some scheme to do. We're cycling. I'm not sure what's happened about Well, these things all seem to be rather short term rather than long term. But we need to do something. I mean, you don't need me to tell you about the health crisis in the hospital, w rubber patronizing, but you know, is going to allow your heart disease is is not just respiratory dementia. Evolution. Over the last eight years, all the papers I've read brain cancer is into everything. So if you clean up the I mean we spent about 20 billion on the National Health Service, so that's my thing. Moving house is great, but only if you can manage that, I'm afraid. Do we have any one in the audience you'd like to ask question Before I moved back to the online questions? Okay, Nicholas Brown says, Hi, Rosemond. I work in an urban area of Greater Manchester with terrible air pollution by 10 year old son. School is in an area of higher pollution. There's a plan by Greater Manchester to put in place a cleaner zone by charging drivers off certain vehicles to pay to enter similar to London. But there's a lot of resistance from the population of Manchester. How do we help the public to realize that one solution is to restrict and reduce traffic, particularly high polluting vehicles? I feel like I need to go to Manchester and speak directly with the people. Look, good economy is going to. Hopefully he's going to be extending the you laze next year. That's what came out of the others in quest, by the way. So it's know that he's what I don't know, he's not on this thing to be ending lots of money. Ultimately, that's what elders inquire showed. That you know is a positive thing that we need to do is about educating is about educating the public about the detrimental impact on the air pollution. And that's where I need your help when the CMO releases his report on AARP. Allusion. Hopefully, I have my niece to persuade the government to do a some advertising like a public sort of health campaign. Steven Whole days. And I am Who is the expert witness in my daughter's case. Some of you, you know, we do want to do a public health campaign, but we need government backing. I think being a teacher, I will always say education. I think people need to know about the impact on the whole body, really away organs that pollution has on day. I think we will go by the fact that the government is not doing anything about that. They need to start this health campaign and that that will help. Look, he's going to take different bits and pieces. You know, Laura was talking about different things people can do, and this government obviously have to do the effort on but fossil fuels. That's a whole nother conversation again, but also the mayor's office, cities, counselors. Everybody has to do the of it. They just can't expect the individual to do it. My advice to individuals is if you can walk away for main roads or walk or run up main rows. That also would be very helpful because on days of high airport, you shin days, the mayor now gives warning, and there are a lot more attendance. Hey, an IV from, um, heart attacks in asthma attack. So education about I would say that being being a teacher, But I believe so because a lot of people you know are busy and they're not engaged in this, you know, the cost of living is high, and people just, you know, are are concerned about even getting food on on the table. So maybe GPS having leaf yes, there and things like that. And for doctors who see a lot of these patients, you know, the public, they can continue to raise this when people come into Yeah, yeah, clinics. Any more questions? We've got one of the front here. I just want to say thank you for, like, such a brilliant conference of how to really Um I don't think great time, but like it's been really good. I just just one thing. I think there's a lot of, like discussion about our individual responsibility, which is really important. And I think that kind of ties off identifying our values. And I think the stronger our values get Teo preserving nature and stuff. I think that that's kind of getting us mortar being like authentically ourselves, cause I think we will kind of very connected, not something that someone just said one of the speakers just mentioned. But I would like to also say that what I don't feel like I hear a smart as we could is that like those Oxfam report about the richest 10% causing such a significant, you know, imprint all of us, Onda. So I do have a knish you with this being last one. Actually, what we should be saying is we're not going to let you get away with this any Munger and I feel like that's a school really scary thing to do because no one wants to give up against things like big farmer and property and terrible things happened when people have done that and very vulnerable groups, it basically that that is part of the solution. Um, and I don't know what your thoughts about that. What? Yeah, we've experienced. Yeah, it's a bit of a David Got a situation with May I Please continue to support me. I do believe that was right to life was breeched if it wasn't for the illegal levels off pollution. No, Only when she not have got asked my but she obviously wouldn't have died on that fatal nights. But we must continue. I'm I must continue on this journey. I don't know. Ever in my life time, we're going to get there. But some of you know if if you treat my family, then you know I've got a Children may be in the air, Lifetime. I don't think we should give up. I mean, the war in Ukraine has active change thing because that cop know I'm really was was into talking about no more new fossil fuel. And I am saddened that it has taken the perfect situation in Ukraine for people to now start talking about. Maybe we need to transferring to clean energy That is a mask. And I continued to tell the government that the sooner we you know So the Parlodel wind, whatever we have to do. Apparently there are those in tech that's a I t. The sooner we do it, the better my message to the secretary, your state waas Look, if you google the top 10 countries with oil, most of them are hi dictators. I quit blood oil, but you know me, I put my foot in your I mean, we're not going to continue to deal with these people, but they're rivals relaxing at at a cop, much to my horror to try and get off fossil fuels which are ultimately killing us. But I think sadly, it has taken a war in Ukraine and for the whole nation to be displays for something. Now people are saying we know that we're no longer going to be dealing with Russia. But what I don't want them to start doing is start fracturing and doing everything. We must must move to clean energy. And the sooner we do that, the better. And I wouldn't you know, it might talk by saying again If you solve the issue off pollution, I think you will solve the issue off climate crisis because they're so Internet. Yeah, that's my feeling on that. Any more questions before we end? Okay. Last question at the back there, please. Hi. And thank you so much for your talk. I'm so, so sorry to hear about your daughter. And I just wondered whether, as a result of the postmortem, did any policy change in any of the government do anything or have been looking through the news articles to see whether it's obviously that's a horrific thing to happen. Yeah. I don't know whether any of her medical team are in the room. I think it was horrific for everyone. You know, She was slow the point, you know, she's sort of drowned in her mucus, and I'm talking to medics. So there was get What's that mean? Um, well, the targets are out now made. The government have got these air quality targets. Please fill it in there. Not great, but anything is better than nothing. There will be the public health campaign. Baroness Jenny Jones were trying to get the human rights through. My Children will be part of a study to do it. Genetics apparition on asthma is going to take time. But, you know, we are getting that. I mean, it's never gonna be quick enough for me because my daughter died and my other Children are more susceptible. Um, but anything that you can do to educate people is incredibly important to me. But just have that support out, that I mean, next year we're going to be having a a sculpture in her memory and the material which is used. It actually absorbs natural June, my oxide. And what that will do is it will raise awareness of that. No, what the coroner said, he said the government need to adopt wh guidelines, and we know. Last year the new guidelines came out the government and now still going on about old guidelines. And they talk about inflammation implementation in 2040 which is never going to be aceptable. They need to be talking about 2030 also awareness and monitoring. So you need to put the pressure on your counsels. And when they monitor, can they have it in lung in the language that job logs can understand? And the last thing is talking to you directly. The coroner felt medics needed to be educated on this, so they're going to obviously start introducing it with new medica that come in. But those of you who have been trained years and years ago, please, you know, make ourselves available when any of these causes are, are there and please communicate them to your to your patients. And that way it will help raise awareness. So please read the recommendations from the coroner, and it may give you some food for for, and I Okay, I just add that is it's such a privilege to talk to medical all the time, who sort of understand this on a completely different level. But you are more powerful than you know, especially when it comes to government. So hold them accountable to wh, Oh, the new guidelines which came out last year. I asked them, Why are they doing it? And when they say it's difficult, just don't give up. Thank you, Rosemond. It's been really valuable to have have you with us. I personally, I'm so glad that we've How do you here today to talk from a non medical perspective? To an extent I think it's very easy for us to surround ourselves with other medical professionals on form. A bit of an echo chamber sometimes. But the patient in the patient's relative perspective is is really important. Well, so if we can open your hands together for Rosemond for