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Um outside the program you have. We're very, very grateful to have Deborah Eastwood, who's the president of the O A and who some time ago said to me, I will make no promises that I cannot keep, which is a great advance from the B O A president's. You always make his promises to walk and then they get so busy, they forget about us. Uh So I'd really like to ask Deborah to come and give us a few thoughts about how the B O A is going to help envelope uh the happy factor of walk, but also how to get involved in development of global orthopedics. Remembering that it's not all about money, Deborah. Thank you very much. So, thanks very much about uh it's a year ago, isn't that deeper and invited me to be a guest speaker. And uh and we did have that conversation about that. There had been, I think, a perception and probably a reality that the B O A uh support for what had been perhaps a bit disappointing. So I did say that I couldn't promise to uh deliver too much. And I feel that my uh it is starting off with apologies and it, my years presidency has probably been uh categorized by having a scattergun approach, you know, coming out of two years of COVID and sort of no one engaging on meeting with people and being bit stuck in the elective joint recovery program, which is hugely important. I know, but there is more to life than that I felt. And so we were or my mission had been on behalf of the B O A to try and make sure that we how to focus on sustainable system. So that is sustainable orthopedic systems. Yes, in terms of recruitment, retention, in terms of education, training, then of course, the wider green agenda, we've also been doing quite a lot of work on E D I and the workplace culture. Uh and more recently, just a bit of work on personal protection equipment in terms of lead gowns for our female trainees to make sure that they are protected uh in terms of their breast cancer risk. But that's all the sort of generalities. Have we done anything specific? Well, um I've got a bit of a reputation for spending money. So at the boat, a conference on behalf of the B O A I, I bought um some Ortho hub time. Uh and Dan Yeomans quickly got in touch with me and saying you've bought this time from Ortho hub, can I have it, please? Um And so uh Dan on behalf of walk and both PSA is working with Ortho hub to develop some podcast plans uh with those three main themes um hasn't happened yet, but I spoke to down at the weekend, so that's about to happen. So I think that would be quite uh interesting and that will of course be internationally available. So that's one thing that we've been trying to do. I mentioned last year that we have had the ongoing support for Ukraine in terms of a webinar series, working with this uh hand society with the Plastic Association Society, of course, the group in Ukraine recently, we've also been working with the save the Children to do management of the child, Children injured in the conflict. Uh And we've also supported uh the opening or been involved in the opening and some probably some ongoing work with the pediatric Blast Injury Center at Imperial, which is also linked in with my day job at Stanmore with the wheelchair assistance people and the prosthetic limb fitting people. So there's some work going on there that we're trying to uh involved in uh the webinars that we've produced for Ukraine have been made generic. So every mention of Ukraine has been taken out of those webinars by Fogle Monsel who's got some editing skills acquired during lockdown. So they are now generic resources uh and they are available on the be away for sort of conflict zones or places like sit down affected by disasters and walls at the moment. Uh And hopefully we can find a way of making those more globally available as well as I was mentioned earlier, we've been working just recently with the Crisis Rescue Foundation in uh supplying some of the orthopedic lectures for the medical school. And that as you heard earlier is going out to Sudan and Ukraine medical students. We've recently had further uh talks with Tim Beacon in working out how we can help uh coordinate, you know, the wasted equipment that might be going to waste in every one of our hospitals. And we just don't know who to contact and is the stuff useful or not. And it goes in the too hard box and we've got 1000 other one things to do and we sort of end up not doing anything. So if for the sake of a tiny bit of coordination, which we're just discussing about overall networking lunch, if we can make those sorts of things better, I know you've got the banana box up up up in Scotland. Um uh Tim's been, is willing to help us here in, in, in more England just to be joined up more in our, in our thinking. So that's another little thing we're doing. So it's really all I have to say. So I have, we have tried, we are trying Alberto and what and we're very keen to be more collaborative, whatever that means. Uh And I think we just still need some guidance from you as to what, what it is you would like. I know this sounds silly but you know what specifically it is because neither group, not, none of us are rich these days in terms of being able to dish out funds. But we have got resources. We are in a more sort of unified setup than we were. And therefore we must be able to work together for a, with a single plan, a single aim rather than the Scattergun approach that I've sort of been using for the last year. I think we need to sort of coordinate things. So that's all I've got to say, question. He was itching to ask questions. I'm not, it's just to say thank you as you know, we've been trying to collaborate for a while, but I think we probably have, all right. Is there a bit more concrete now? Yeah, thanks. Um Yeah. So I, I think previously that the idea of collaboration might have been a bit nebulous and neither side really understood what we wanted, but I think now we've got a few more concrete ideas and so hopefully that should work better. Yeah. And I think that's all it needs, isn't it? I mean, everyone gets, I think everyone has a bit of selfishness about them and they like to have their logo on it or they like to know what, where the money's going or where their resources are going rather than just putting it out into the ether. And so therefore, there is a horrible tendency I think for people to be individualistic and that, that can't work, that can't be the right way to do it. So we have to find some way of collaborating properly. And I know we will deeper. And Alberta, you know, in the Scott group, I have to say me going up to Scott group meeting was a revelation really because you are very cohesive. Um, and I actually went to the Welsh Orthopedic Society last, uh, week. I do do some work sometime, but not very much at the moment. So the Welsh orthopedic society again, a really collegiate feel about it and what they're trying to do to be fair mostly inside Wales. But it is nice to realize that there is a, a collegiate feel to a lot of what we're doing at the moment and, and that needs to be fostered and continued. I think so. Thank you very much for letting me have five minutes of time and we'll, we'll follow this up.