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I think we should be reporting. Lovely. Right. Okay, so it's been another minute. Um, hi, guys. Welcome. My name is Lucy, and I'm here with and as this evening. Thanks so much for coming on a on a Monday evening to this talk. We appreciate there's been a bit of complication with getting this, uh, series out to you guys. Um, so we're part of the medicine or the medical education Society within the Queen's school. Um, and we've been working hard behind the scenes to try and get the series out to you, but I think there's been some issues of getting zoom links and stuff, Um, communicated in time, so we can only apologize for that, but we'll don't. You made it. Um, so, Yeah. So I'm Lucy. I'm one of the 50 years. And now do you want to introduce yourself too? Hi. I'm fine. As I'm also one of the fifties, and I'm really happy to have you here, so we'll get started. Welcome. And congratulations. Um, it's no small deal that you've pulled through all of your exams and gotten into the University of Cambridge Medical School. You got sick, The other head and I'm sure they'll be amazing. Um, it's not a lot of hard work, so Yeah. Huge. Huge. Well done. Um, we're just going to run through, like, how to make the most of lectures lecture this evening. The way it's gonna work is, um, I'll speak for about 10 minutes or so, And then for now, we'll check in with some things at the end as well, or during. And then we'll open it up to basically everybody, and you're welcome to commute and ask questions or put questions on the chat, whatever you prefer. Um, and then we'll do our best to answer any questions. Queries concerns you might have. So, yeah, we'll get started. So how do your lectures work? Well, your time tables that should hopefully be distributed relatively soon. They'll tell you where you need to go for men's or molecules in medical science. That's your biochemistry lecture, biochemistry, lectures and then home homeostasis. The physiology. They'll be in Baggage Lecture theater, which is on new in new museum site, Um, and then for fab or functional architecture of the body. Fancy name for anatomy. All of your lectures will happen in the anatomy Lecture theater um, your actual dissections take place in the dissection room or the d r. And you'll be introduced to all of that when you come in the in the next few weeks. So yeah, and in terms of logistics of lectures, they tend to actually start around five past the hour. So just so you know, in case you're running late, there is a bit of leeway. But of course, trying to get there in time if you can, um, we thought that it would be a good idea to cover different ways of learning and things with you, because lectures are a very different way to teach and learn compared to what you might be used to in school or in college or equivalent. So what we really want to emphasize is that there's loads of different ways of learning and nose. One specific way is right. You just have to find your own style over time. That might take you a year that might take you a few weeks. That might take you five years. Who knows? Um, but I'd say if you're willing to try out different techniques and different methods and learn from previous experiences, learn from other people. That's the best way that you can compile your own way of making the most of lectures. Um, so I like an example I put on the screen here is that some lecture styles might suit some. Sorry, some styles might suit some lecture series better than others. So, for example, if you're trying to learn stuff from the fab the anatomy lectures, it might be worth making flashcards, especially if there's quite a high volume of just memorizing content. Um, whereas for molecules in medical science or your biochemistry course, Um, I found that hand drawing the diagrams over and over again was very useful for memorizing the bio chemical pathways. But of course, you know, trying to draw draw the minutia and all the details of every bone in the body for anatomy might not help everybody in terms of memorizing where muscles attach and where they originate from and stuff so just a couple of examples there. So I thought I'd move on to I guess, the the way that we approach lectures here, or the way that I'm in discussion with like my peers. And also I'm thinking about how I approach lectures myself. I think it's quite nice to separate it into three parts. Um, not saying you have to do every part. I say the during lecturer is quite important because that indicates you actually attended. So pre lecture wise, um, the handout and the power point are usually made available before the lecture. Some lectures only make one available and then have both available afterwards. But either way, you'll be able to save them to your devices and access them. I'd say, if you, if it's possible to give perhaps the handout or the power point of flip through before you actually attend, the lecture is quite useful to get a vague idea of what you're what you're going to be learning about. Of course, if you don't have time, for whatever reason, that's completely fine. Not everyone does formal pre reading. Um, I know that some of my friends actually made a full on notes before the lecture from the handout or from their own reading, and then went to a lecture and then came out from it, so that also works, too. But ultimately it doesn't actually matter that that's just an example of how you can approach things before you actually attend the lecture. Now during the lecture, I was quite old school, so I always wrote with a pen and paper be interested to hear what China's did before or continues to do. Some people do like a lot of people actually type their notes. Um, there's all sorts of apps out there nowadays. And if you have like an iPad or were able to use a stylist to write, then like one note, whatever note or notion might be really good apps to use. And I also had a friend who just never wrote notes and just listened, um, and just went with the flow for the whole hour. So that also works to, um, personally. I actually find the lectures are the most effective way of delivering content. Um, that the audience will understand off the bat, but because they're very, you know, directional. But it's also understandable that lectures are the most efficient and effective way of delivering content to a large audience. You know, when you're in your first lectures, you'll see that there's a plus 200 of you in the room, and it's very different to what used to be in the classroom or equivalent. So, Um, even though you might find yourself sitting for hours of lectures and being like, I'm not 100% sure what's going on, I just know that that's part of the process. And it's entirely normal. Um, and you don't have to understand everything off the bat. Um, and it's a very It's quite a long process for all of it to make sense. So don't forget that if you ever do panic now, Post Lecture. Um, there's all sorts of ways we can approach that to. You can forget about the lecture completely until you come to revision. You can reread the handout. You can reread the power point. You can do your own reading. Perhaps if you handwrite things, you can transfer what you've written by hand into your own electronic notes, or perhaps what you've typed next to each of the slide you can. Then, during the lecture, you can then convert into your own notes as well. Um, it's possible as well that you could really watch the lecture if it's recorded. I say that it's very difficult to do this, um, in actual term time, because it's so condensed, and you only have eight weeks to learn so much. So perhaps during Easter terms of your last term towards exams, that's a better use of time. If you were were to really watch things. But generally speaking, I'd say, like for me, Um, I found that the post electric part was probably the most important, as it was really the right time to bring together what I'd seen and what I've been taught in the lectures with the content of the handout with what I had written in my own notes. Um, and it's really from there that I made my own set of notes that I could actually understand. Um, as you probably see that there's a quite variable degree of quality of handouts and also quality of power points. So if you're able to kind of condense what you've learned and what you've, um, like understood from the lecture into your own into your own notes, that's a very useful way to consolidate the information. Um, just the tip in, Um, I'm sorry. We know Lucy. Lucy made some excellent points there, and I think just sort of add something she was saying earlier, Um, it can be really scary when you first come here to see that everyone's doing different things that's absolutely normal. We all learn differently. So I don't think that this is the way that you have to learn in a lecture or you have to be reading that for a lecture, try and find something that works for you. So Lucy said she did that. So what works for me is I would try and skim through the sort of lecture slides before the lecture or the evening before, and I genuinely mean skim through. Sometimes I would literally open the document and glance at the slides just to sort of take a like a mental check box in my head, saying I have looked at the material, Um, and you know, like obviously you know, when you get to, you know, you're doing a lot of things and you know, life happens. So obviously, you know, look after yourself after your mental health and everything, um, so don't sort of do that at the expense of other things that that makes sense. But try and have a look at the lecture before going to the lecture and then in the lecture. Um, just, you know, just try and try and do something to keep yourself engaged with it, whether it's troubling things down on a piece of paper. And I was a bit old school as well. I used to have, like, just a piece of paper that I take and just drop things down. Um, or if you're typing something. So, um, the vast majority of my notes I made on one note, actually, I can share my screen. Lucy, Um, if I can do that one second, hopefully, uh, you should be able to This is something. So this is what I do, and I have continued to do. Can can everyone see that? Can you see that? So this is so someone will take my laptop. They would have five years worth of Cambridge Medicine on here. This is every single module that I've ever done at Cambridge, and this is sort of your first, you know? So I'll just load up homeostasis or physiology. And this is kind of how I do my notes. So what I do is I before so the evening before the lecture, What I do is I load up the lecture slides, which as lucid, he said, You'll be given the like the week before or whatever, and I just sort of skim through that and I'll print it to one note and then during the lecture, I'll just drop stuff down on the sides. What the lecture has said and the most of this, I'll just do just for my own sort of just to engage with the lecture. And this is just something I know. Other people use pen and paper. Um, you know, um, other people use sort of flash card, but you just have to meet, um, and I still continue to do it, so as long as you find something that sort of stick with it. But Lucy also made a really good point that not all lectures are the same. So some things you might learn better using flash cards, something you might learn better by making diagrams. Um, so you know, you kind of realize that as you go along, but the key thing is just sort of try out different things, And if you find something that sticks for you, stick with it. Don't sort of don't feel that you have to use a particular happen like if you go on YouTube, you have all these YouTube, like Medic, Medic YouTubers who recommend one thing and you can feel the pressure to do, like one, use one particular technique. It's not like that at all. Okay, thank you for that. And that's that's really useful. And I think seeing how someone else's approach not taking it actually really useful to I didn't really have that before. So I basically just winged it in first year and made loads of world documents and soon realized that that wasn't the way that worked for me. So now I've converted to one note as well. So all of my clinical small note 71 in a similar fashion. Um, so if I just go back to show my screen, um, did you okay? Perfect. So, um, if we move on to this is our last slide, actually, So lots and lots of time for questions. Um, resource wise, you've touched on the lecture. Hand out a few times now, so mood will be your best friend. That's what you'll find the handout. That's where you'll find the recording. If there is one, that's where you'll find the power point. Um, they'll also be usually additional reading recommended by the lecturer. Sometimes the lecture, like, points at their own resources that they've written, which is kind of funny. But, you know, you can take it, take it as you wish. You know, if you want to read everything and they actually recommend to go for it, you'll find that maybe you won't have time to, in which case, maybe just pick a couple of things here and there, especially to embellish essays and stuff. So just some example examples of resources which might help, um, for anatomy fab, um, the instant anatomy app and actually weight. I don't know if it's not in the anatomy website and book. We're really useful. I took it. I actually bought a copy myself. And, um, it was a very concise way of, um, I guess seeing all of the different anatomical reasons of the body and looking at where the muscles insert and attach, um originate from what the nerves are innovative by in quite a graphical way. So there's no actually that many words on the website or in the book. It's mainly just kind of arrows pointing at things. Um, it's quite difficult to explain, but if you look, if you just touch it up on Google, you'll see what I mean. Um, and it's actually made by created by one of our senior anatomy demonstrators at Cambridge, so you probably meet him at some point. Um, there's also the virtual anatomy app, which is downloadable from model. Hopefully, it still is for you guys as well. I I downloaded it, and it was a pretty nice way of having kind of a pocket handbook of, um I guess an an anatomy related stuff. So basically, you can pull up a three D rendering of the body, and then you can tap on muscles or tackle nerves and other structures. Um, and it will pop up with, like, a little description of everything you need to know. Really? Um, and it was quite I'm quite like a I learned through pictures and um, by understanding, like things in three dimensions. And it's quite quite difficult to understand anatomy fully with just two D images on pieces of paper. Um, it'll be interesting to hear what finance think about this, too. I don't know if you use these, these resources as well. Um, but yeah. So and then for some names or biochemistry, I used the fundamental biochemistry by voters and do it which you are a married couple. It's not just repetition when I mean, um, so these are and then for home, I use medical physiology by roads and bell. So those are two textbooks. I think I probably recommended, um, to you guys on mood. Or anyway, I am not the biggest. Despite what I said here, I am actually not the biggest textbook fan. Um, I kind of use them to help, um, add to my knowledge, help add to what I've learned to lectures, but I didn't learn them. Um, like, you know, I didn't read them from to cover kind of thing. Um, it's quite useful to refer to text books when you're not 100% sure you're not. You don't fully understand how the lecture has explained something, because often textbooks will approach explanations in a slightly different way. Um, and just so you know as well, like, some people don't use textbooks at all, and some people, like one of my other friends, just use textbooks the whole time and basically just read them as a form of vision. So you see your whole spectrum basically, and that's completely fine. And also your subject specific supervisors should provide lots of resources. Um, during your super visions and they'll help you understand electric content. Usually your supervision will be organized such that they are in line with what you've been taught during your lectures. Um, and of course, your supervisor to try and stretch you a little bit further to help with your essay writing and so forth. Um, and finally, ask all the medical students and ask your peers as well. People are usually really, really lovely. I'm very willing to help. Um, and we know we know what it's like to have gone through for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th year, four years. So, you know, I don't ever feel afraid to reach out and be like, Hey, I'm kind of struggling with this or I don't really know what I'm doing Germany advice because I definitely did that a lot. And you learn through other people's experiences to So, um, now, did you want to add anything to this? Yeah. Again, Lucy made some really good points there. I would just echo the last point. Ask older medical students. I think, um I definitely would use of all the medical students in my college a lot. Um and yeah, it's sort of They sort of been there, done that. Bought the t shirt as it were. Um, And you know, you guys are doing a very similar, if not the same course that we did four years ago. Everything that you get tested on is the same. Um, and, uh, honestly, if you have any questions, I think you know, Lucy or I would definitely be more than happy to answer any questions. But also just anyone. You need to be honest. Uh, it's a very, very friendly community. Um, in terms of in terms of textbooks, um, I echo what Lucy said I was. I'm not the biggest textbook person. Um, in fact, something that I asked one of one of my supervisors when I was in first year is sort of what sort of do you need to know? And they said that if you learn every single thing that's on your lecture handout, you should be delivering the lectures. You shouldn't be a student, and you'll get 100 and 10% in your exams. So the point he was trying to make is your lecture, Um, your lecture handout cover. More than enough text books are purely used to sort of clarify things, But to be honest, the internet is your best friend, and I use Wikipedia for a lot of things. Um, I always I always say to my friends as well that, like, you know, in 10 20 years time, the generation of patients that are going to be treated by us is they're heavily going to be relying on our Wikipedia knowledge. Um and you know, like, if you just google something, it's more than enough. I would not waste money on textbooks is all I'm saying. I wouldn't spend a single penny on textbooks in your first two years, to be honest, unless your college has a fund for textbooks, in which case make use of that. Um, and if you really, really, really wanted a textbook, this didn't come from me. But you can obviously just google the name of the text book three pdf online, and someone will have distributed that textbook. Uh, yeah. So you can, um I wouldn't spend a penny on textbook. Basically, um, And supervision? Um, yeah. Like, um, definitely. I think we did have a question in the chat, Lucy. Someone asked something about supervision. So, you know, maybe you can answer that in a bit, but actually, I do want to You want to answer that question? Then we can talk about how to make the most of supervision. So one sec, I'm just gonna do a couple things to do for I'm just going to re share the power ball, because I think somebody direct message saying that they couldn't see it. So I'll do that first. If you just continue speaking. And then perhaps when we finish, we can go through the content. Yeah. Okay, so So what does the supervision consist of? Excellent question. Um, so the supervision is done in your college groups, so, you know, say there are 10 people in your college for every single subject you do. So in first year, that's going to be my name. So biochemistry harm physiology or the anatomy, you will have a supervision, and your college will split you into sort of three groups of three people. You know, give or take right, so it will be groups of two or three or four people. And what you'll do is you'll break down a few lectures because you have one supervision a week. Roughly you break down about two or three lectures in that Supervision is the key concept, and you'll go through it. So what I tend to do with the students I supervise, um is, um, sort of take two lectures from that week and go through the key concept with them. Uh, and typically, what supervision do? Is there a chance for you to ask a lot of questions? And it is really scary because, you know, remember feeling like this when I first came right? You know, you don't want to look stupid, right? You don't want to look stupid in front of the other people, but the chances are the other people are probably thinking the exact same thing. So the number one tip that I can give to sort of younger students to do sort of help yourselves really and do really well is make the most of your supervision. Just ask questions. If there's something you're not sure of, ask, ask that question because chances are the other people in your supervision. You probably don't understand it either. And you know, you're you're going to be getting supervision is from, you know, older students who've done the course from lecturers from you know, professors in the faculty make use of their knowledge, and they they will be very happy to go through it with you. The other things you're doing supervision. You'll go through practice questions, practical questions and essays as well. So it's a writing. Come to our talk on s a writing a bit later on where we can we can give you a few tips going forward. But again, supervision are really the place where I guess. But that's really what sets sort of Oxford and Cambridge apart. So really make use of them. And and please don't worry about looking stupid because I asked a bunch of stupid questions. I think, um, in my like in my very first home supervision, I think I I think my my home. So she asked me, like, How do you measure heart rate? And I was just there, like, How do you measure heart? I don't know. And he's like, Have you ever heard of BPM. And I was like, Yeah, I haven't asked me what the normal heart rate was and I said something like, 140. I think which, you know, I guess most people here probably know that the normal heart rate is like about 70 BPM. But, you know, I passed and I'm sitting here talking to you right now in an intensive care ward where I look at heart rate on a daily basis. So it's fine. So, um yeah, don't Don't worry about the Persians. Basically, yeah, really great content. Um, and that's and I think, um, I would definitely echo the whole, um I guess feeling a little bit intimidated, slash being scared of asking questions. Ultimately, your your supervisors there are there to help you out. If you don't understand something, then it's the right opportunity to ask about it. Um, and you will often find as well that because, like I mentioned before, eight weeks is a very short term. Um, and there's so much content that needs to be given to you guys through Practicals through dissection, through the through lectures and so forth. Um, you know, it's very. It's very likely that at some point you'll be like, Oh, there's so much and I need I need someone to just explain, like how to get my head around this. This this I think using the super, using the supervision as an opportunity to clarify your understanding and make sure you've actually gotten to grips with, like, the fundamentals, especially in first year. We're very useful in future years as well. Um, so and I think also practicing how to write essays. And as soon as I mentioned earlier as well, we'll have to talk on that, Um, and how to, I guess, make the most of your time in in the very short term's, um, and getting feedback on how you write essays and the multiple questions that will eventually form part of your exams at the end of the year. Those are the most useful aspects of super visions, and, um, yeah, I'm sure you'll you'll have a really great time, although I'm sure that point it will be quite intense, too, generally speaking as well. Logistics wise, I think most colleges try to organize one supervision for subject per week, so I guess Pembroke. I do. Distinct. Remember having one supervision and 51 supervision limbs and one supervision home. Perhaps on some occasions you have to home lectures to home supervision. Because the week after your home supervisor can't can't be there for whatever reason, but it should average out to about a supervision term. Um, and you'll you'll be set lectures, probably from the get go. Uh, sorry. Set set essays from the get go, Um, and probably set more multichoice questions towards the end of the year as exams approach. So, um, I hope that helps the person who asked a bit about, um was it? Yeah, that's gonna Who asked about what? The decision is this If you're confused, just message again. We can answer. Um, so right, I think also and also like Lucy and I will put our emails down in the chat afterwards. So if you want to ask any questions for us more than happy to answer um absolutely. I think so. I got a direct question, actually, which I compose to finance. So, um, would you recommend getting a laptop or an iPad or a two in one of those touch screen those touchscreen laptops for making notes in lectures. Are there any programs that we need to run as medics? Um, so I would recommend again. It really depends on what you think will work best. I went for a laptop, Um, and it's the same laptop that I'm talking to you right now on, um, my laptop. I got, like, a really, really good discount on. So I did end up getting a touch screen laptop, the touch screen I use when I'm watching, Like I don't know, TV or something on my laptop. I don't use it for work, if that makes sense. And my laptop is one of those, like two in one, but I never, like, make notes on it. I would recommend a laptop from my side purely because you can just do more things on a laptop at the moment that you can do on an iPad. Um, however, however, um, there is no you shouldn't that there aren't any programs per se that you need to run. I just think that I mean, Lucy, it depends on your part to really, doesn't it? But if you do need to run like any fancy programs for your part, so you can always go to the department and, you know, you can come into, like, a particular department. They'll have the computers there to run specific programs. Um, but yeah, I mean, I got a laptop. It worked. Well, I know lots of my friends got iPads or tablets, and then they they they've done absolutely fine. So it just depends on what you want, Uh, and also, like, how much you're willing to spend. But you don't need, like, a really fancy laptop or anything at all. Yeah, 100%. Um, so, like the labs that I had when I came in, the first year was really heavy, and it basically died on me by the end of first year. And the last time I've had since has worked just fine. There's nothing fancy, um, pretty like mid range. And it's not touch screen either. I'd say that if you if you had experience in writing notes on like, a touch screen and you find it like, you know, it really works for you and it looks aesthetically pleasing or, you know, you find that you can process information better, then go for it. If you want to try it, try it out. And you have the funds to then absolutely as well. Either way, I'd say laptop is a pretty isn't essential, really? Um, but then, beyond that, it's kind of up to you, as finance said, um, and programs. Why so, like for my part, too. In case you guys aren't sure. Part, too, is. That's what we refer to as your third year. So it's where you interplay and you choose another subject to basically study for a year. Often they'll be very medic related, medicine related. So, for example, I did pathology. So I'm studying the immune system and stuff and and and diseases and things. So for me, because my project was basically bioinformatics to be coded, Um, I ended up having to run quite a few different programs on my laptop, but it could be just fine. You know, technology is coming on. Come in. We're in leaps and bounds. So, um, I think you shouldn't have too much of a problem. And if there really is no capability of your laptop to run programs, then you can go into department or ask your supervisor and things. Um, so also for the person who's struggling to see the slides. Don't worry. After at the end of this talk, we'll, um, um put the feedback form up and then we can also send over. And then you'll also be able to get hold of the PowerPoint slides as well. Um, so someone asked. About what Home? Mimms? And, uh, sorry, not home moms and Fab stood for. So excellent question. It's not a silly question at all. So Home stands for homeostasis. That's physiology again. We're doing separate talks as a next week on intro to Harm Intro, to have an intro to minimize that Come along to those home is homeostasis. So physiology. So that's like the study of organs and organ systems. Fab is functional architecture of the body. So that's your anatomy course. And you, you know, you just look at the structure and function as it were. Mimms molecules in medical science That's biochemistry. And there your three subjects for first year, pretty much you have a few other subjects, which we won't dwell on at the moment because, um, those sort of fall into place as you go throughout the year, so we'll do some sociology and you'll do some medical statistics. But those subjects, I would not worry about those at all. Um, these three are the only three that you should sort of focus on. Um, certainly at the very at the start, would you agree to see Yeah, I would agree. Apologies to the person who got a bit lost part way we went through what Mom's home and Dad were at the very beginning. But I'm aware of that because of delays and things, people have had to trickle in a little bit later. Um, so, yeah, I'd say that, um, like, I remember in my, um in my notes, I had, like, my core medical science kind of folded. And within that I had bad names and home, and then I kind of had my other strands. So like, um and as mentioned, the sociology side of things and medical statistics. Um, you'll find that you'll be introduce to it through lectures. And your college might actually organize some supervision as well. For that those those aspects of the course, but yeah, focusing on minimum. So biochemistry harm physiology and fab anatomy will be the best way to approach the year I think, and also that that's going to be the highest volume of content coming your way. So means we had, like, two lectures per week, if I remember correctly home. So physiology we have to as well. And then with anatomy, you were in the dissection room twice a week. We were in the dissection twice a week and also that we have lectures here and there. So it's quite a large volume of stuff to be learning and getting your head around. So, yeah, 100% agree. That's that's what you should be focusing on, especially at the beginning. So I just got I just got a, like a private message question. So, um, asking about group work and I think that touches up on a really good point. So something that I tell all like the students that I teach as well, is if there's one. If there's one thing that you should do as well, especially in the first year or second year, I think Lucy will wholeheartedly agree with me on this is honestly work together, work together, share notes, help each other out, teach, teach each other like it saves you guys so much time. And actually, it just makes things quite fun. Like I remember before my first year of all my first year exams and some of my second year exams, like six or seven of us, we just got a room in college and just went through, like, the most random things from each course together. Um, and it just it and, you know, we went for, uh, we went from a key. Is that, like, two o'clock in the morning? I mean, our exam was the next day at, like, you know, 11 o'clock in the morning. So it was okay, I guess. But it just made things quite fun, like, honestly, doing it, working together and helping each other out because, you know, um, when you sort of work together, you will not only split the workload, but you also realize that you didn't know something yourself and other people teach it to you and equally other people who didn't know something. You can teach it to them. So it's a really nice way of doing things. And I think if you start doing that earlier on, it just makes things so much easier. So last year, when it came to my fourth year exams. It was we did. We did the same. We sort of, you know, booked out a room in the library, and we all just practiced our examination routines and our history taking and sort of some core medical theory and knowledge with each other. And again, it just made things not only easier because it's split the workload, but it also just just made things quite fun. So, um, in terms of group work, there is a scope for formal group work, but it's very, very limited. I would recommend you work in groups to sort of help each other out with, you know, like you're learning as you go through out, whether that's in your supervision groups or in, like college groups or even friends you make from other colleges. I remember So I'm at Johns. I remember like we last year when we were revising, for example, some of my friends from cats and from like the hall they all came through and we were just revising together as a group of 10 people in the library, um, so definitely work together in groups that will save you so much time Yeah, 100 degree, I'd say, Um, not as a word of caution, but kind of as a word of caution that there's a lot of medics on the course, and we all have different styles of revising and learning. And some people working in groups is a no go, and that's not what they do at all. And that's something that I'm really uncomfortable. So I just say, Just be mindful. If you are suggesting group work and stuff, even if you're really enthusiastic about it, they're not. Everyone else will necessarily feel as enthusiastic. Um, so if you find like, sounds like financial and a really lovely, like quite a large group of people who he could devise with, which is amazing for me, I always found that I worked. I always really enjoy group work, but for some reason I always end up working on maximum groups of three. So oftentimes, like last year when I was practicing examinations, it would just be two of us. So one of us will examine, so I want to examine. There are clinical examinations where you use just like a scope and stuff. So, you know, I'd examine my friend and they examined me and then we just keep taking turns. There was another time when, um, my friend and I went to a cafe and then we just start. They're doing basically, like, clinical vignettes questions for, like, two hours straight, which I was really useful as well. Um, but ultimately, if you know you prefer revising alone and don't feel bad or like, guilty that you're not working with other people or not making the most of other resources, um, it's completely fine. You know, I think all of us will probably spend a bit like there'll be a fraction of time, which you spend, you know, revising alone, learning alone and and then the other faction you spend with other people, whether in a more kind of formal atmosphere, like, I guess, being in lectures and ask some other question during the break or whatever. Alternatively, you know, more informally where you basically hang out with your friends and then go through questions or you ask. You know, I didn't quite understand that part of that news lecture coming to go through it. So yeah, it's very it's very much up to you, and there's no right or wrong way to approach it. Yeah. No, no. Yeah, I think. Yeah, exactly. So, as you said, obviously, like if you find a group, work isn't something that you do yourself, then fine. I'm just suggested it as a potential option. The one thing I would say is that definitely share your notes or something. If people are asking for it or if people, you know certainly like as a group, it's really nice to have that, like, sort of community sort of spirit going because, you know, you're all in the same boat. You know, there are going to be times when you find it tough, but at the end of the day, you're all going to be doctors. So, uh, definitely, like, help you help each other out and just, you know, just check up on people If things don't like, you know, you just definitely help each other out as a kind of overall message with this. Yeah, 100% and towards exams as well. When, um, when it comes to the multiple choice questions as well. In my college, we basically made, like, um, kind of Google sheets where we just put all of the answers like a B C D e But all of the questions after we've done all the papers. And then we basically compared answers. And then there was another column for comments like Oh, I thought the because blah, blah, blah. I thought, You know, I originally 40 but then I thought, See, because blah and then it's very helpful to see how other people think. Um, yeah, very much depends on, like you're around and your college and stuff. But that's not That's not something to worry about, things things will fall into place. So I've had another question directly to me. Which is how long do they usually last? Um, usually about an hour. Um, so five past the hour, they might finish. They might finish on the hour. So 55 minutes. But generally speaking, um, yeah, it's around an hour in total. I haven't had any more questions come through so finance anymore for you know, if anyone has any questions, feel free to just ask them. Yeah, you don't have to message and shot if you prefer to speak. But I think everyone prefers not to speak directly. So yeah, How long? How long do you know, when the time starts, Lucy, is it because I don't really know when they're term starts? Guys want chip in, like, one time. I have a date in my head, but I think it's probably wrong. Um, because I thought October the first it was a good guess. You're moving on the first. Ah, so exciting. It's, like, two weeks away now. Yeah. The date I had was, like, the third of October, and I think that's a Monday would be the first week. So that's when you're like, um, you get introduced to the dissection room and, um, guess, find your way around college and stuff. So very exciting. Are there any more questions about all the questions about, you know, life or lectures or supervision? I just had one question, um, high. Would you be able to show your one note note making method because I joined a bit late? Yeah, sure, sure. Now, I actually hold on. Let me just load up my own, um, again, like everyone works differently. So don't This isn't like the only way to do it. Obviously, this is just something that you know, Um, so the way I did it is. Basically, I create a notebook for each of my subjects that I do. And as you can see, this is literally where the entirety of my like medical knowledge is stored, basically. So this is all for first year, so home. So that's homeostasis of physiology. So I made a note book for that, and then within that, I organize it in terms of units. So you do quite a lot of units. So you do an introduction like action potentials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah like. And this is the units on cardiovascular physiology case for the heart and blood vessels. Within each of those, you have lots of lectures, and you can make some pages. And what? All I do is I just print. There's an option on whenever you go to print a document. There's an option called Print to one note. So I just load up the lecture handout for the lecture slides, which I've just skimmed through the night before. Honestly, it's sometimes I skim over in like, two minutes. Sometimes if I'm if I'm, you know, feeling particularly productive. I actually read the lecture handout again. No more than 10 minutes. Um you know, and I just click print to one note, it loads it up on one note, and I will just listen to the lecturer basically. And then while they're talking, I'll just quickly dot stuff down Often all of this will be reiterated in the handout. I literally type stuff just so that, you know, I feel like I'm actively engaging with a lecturer. So, you know, I just look at the slides, listen to the lecturer and whatever he or she is saying, I would just try and drop stuff down on the side. Um, and then when it comes to revision, I'll just go through this. This is these are my notes. Basically, this is just one way of learning. As we said before, I find something that works for you. You know, whether it's a different software, whether it's a pen and paper. Now that I'm in clinical school, I find a lot of my notes are actually pen and paper, because you just learning is no longer when you're at the clinical school. Learning is no longer lecture based. It's just sort of learning on the wards, and you can't really carry around a laptop on the ward's. So yeah, pen and paper will do. But just find something that works for you. I hope that was helpful. Um, on my side, I was just having a look through my like, second year notes and things. Um, I ended up converting all of my separate word document from each lecture into a pdf, which I found was a better way to, um, so that I often print out the pdf and then be able to highlight and things when it came to revision. Um, I'm not saying that necessarily work because there's a lot of paper that I ended up printing out. I'm not sure how much actually upload it to my brain. And like I said before, I now use one note as well. And, um, I find, especially with clinical medicine as well, although that's a few years away for you guys, but definitely come. Um, it's very useful to separate them in terms of specialties. And that's kind of how I have now organized my notes. So, in a similar way to organizing by module, that's basically what I do. But with each of the actual, like cardiology was like respiratory medicine read all that kind of thing. Um, so we've had a few more questions come through, um, which are all great. So keep them going and coming. Honestly? Yeah. So Lucas has asked, um, are there any particular topics that you recommend going on before we arrive? Gosh, yeah. My answer is finances. Reaction. Yeah, Honestly, um, just please enjoy your summers. Have a lovely, lovely time. Have a good rest. You worked really hard. You know, you could pre read for the entire year. You could read every text book that we mentioned today. Um, you could try and learn all the all of anatomy, but ultimately, what's the point? You know, you're given this year to learn the content and to get your head around it properly and to engage in supervision and lectures. And in Practicals, that's where you learn you can. You know, I think there's no harm in may Be looking through, I guess if you did like a levels or IV and stuff, maybe looking through the heart cardiovascular related things, um, from biology. Um, but ultimately, you'll be learning so much new content That and it's such a great such greater detail. But it might actually be completely counterintuitive to try and go through what you've already learned. That makes sense. I don't have anything to add their Honestly, Just enjoy the sort of few weeks before and yeah, like, just sort of. I guess if you're going to focus on anything, focus on getting like the stuff that you need to move in sorted like, you know, get your bits and bobs, like for your don't know, college accommodation sorted. I would not, like, do anything vaguely academic. In the meantime, I think, you know, it obviously depends on your college. I know that some colleges got given, like, I don't know, like, just short things to do before they got here again. Nothing. Nothing too significant. But like, you know, um, maybe like something that takes like an hour to do or whatever to do before they before they came to Cambridge. But if you've not heard anything from the college or from the, you know, just chill and like, honestly, when you get here, you will realize the value of not working as much as the value of working. Um, definitely. Like you need to sort of learned when to take time off because, yeah, it's good. It's useful. Going forward. Yeah, definitely a really, really useful life skill. And also having your own boundaries when you work. And when you don't What spaces you working and stuff, Which, if you guys would be interested in, we can talk about at some point. Um, also a plug for much later on as well, um, after our lecture series. So that a little refresher lecture series. We're also going to be doing an in person panel. Um, where everyone on the Red Sox, um, committee within the within the role that we have now. And I have will be in there in person. You can ask any questions you want about any of the stuff we've covered. Um, So, listen, you know, um, I've also had I think I think if there's one, there's one thing that we want to advertise to you to make sure to come come to is probably that in person event. I think we said the 12th of October. Is that right? Yeah, I think it was Yeah. Location to be confirmed, but, you know, try and try and sort of Yeah, that's an in person event. Yeah. Yeah. Would be lovely to see you there. Exactly. So the questions on your side? Yes, I have another question. Um, so it's, um be interesting to see what you think. And so someone asked, What do you actually take notes on in lectures? Are you just writing everything the lecturer says? So what do you do? I don't write everything the lecturer says because you just can't. Um, I as I said, I just I just try and, like, pick up on the everything that you sort of need to know will be in the lecture handout. As I said. So even if you feel like you've missed something, a lecture handout will have it does that make sense? So what I mean by that is usually what lecturers will do. They will give you two things. So the first thing they'll do is they will give you a a lecture slide, the set of slides that they're using. So it's like the slides that Lucy's using. They will give that to you, but they will also give you what's called a handout. And a handout is basically the script of what they're going to say, right you know, it's like it's like a mini textbook for that particular lecture series. That little handout or and slides together will have absolutely everything you need to know. And, like 10 times more content and you'll ever need to know, right? The key bit should be in the handout. So if if I make a note of something in the lecture, it's usually just key things that they've talked about key points. And as I said, most of my note taking like if I'm being completely honest with myself in lectures, I only make notes to sort of sort of engage with the lecture and pretend like I'm doing something, otherwise I will fall asleep. So that's like me being brutally honest. So, yeah, that's kind of what I actually make notes on the lectures. What about you? You see? Uh, yeah, incredibly relatable. Same thing here. Really? I found that in first year I was panicked quite a lot. And just try and write everything the lecture was saying. But obviously, with your writing my hand, you can't keep up with the pace of actual, like, actual fluent speech. So, you know, I don't know, missing our big chunks or I leave out the junk and then come back to to it. Later, when I remembered what, like the lecture had mentioned, oftentimes I didn't. They just be spaces in my recent notes. But I think ultimately, if you can try and engage and if you find a way to engage, whether it's by literally just listening or not writing any notes or whether it's through jotting down stuff that you think is important, I think that's the best way to actually make the most of lectures because they are so you need direction. Or, you know, there's no way to really engage with the lecture with the lecturer like themselves unless you go up at the end and ask questions. It's not like in class. You can stick your hand up and be like, Oh, can you just go through that again? You can't really do that in lectures, so you just have to listen and absorb as much as you can like a sponge. But it's actually very difficult. So try and keep yourself, uh, try to keep yourself mentally active, and if that's that's usually through, like writing notes of some form, Um, even if it's, you know, you only dropped down one thing every few minutes. That's completely fine, because there will be so much coming at you. And yeah, it's also a good way of keeping yourself awake. Because sometimes electrical can be very warm and cozy, especially in winter. After you cycled a while. Um, and it can be very easy to start sneezing after lunch, So yeah, I'd say it's it's a good way to kind of engage with what you're you're being taught. Um, yeah. And have any questions on your side anymore? Yeah, I had a few more come through. So, Lucy, how would you answer this one? Do you think it is useful to learn Anky or get to know how to use? And that's such a good question. Yeah. So Okay, so in my first year, I didn't use Ankita. I didn't know what it was for. Those who don't know what it is is basically, um it's kind of a flash card making system. You can also get it as an app as well. Um, it's a program that you can get on your laptops and you make your own flash cards and the basic one is just front and back. So, you know, you write the front, and then you write what on the the answer on the back. And then when you come to revise it, you just click enter, and then it shows you the answer on the back kind of obvious. But then the clever thing about it is it uses space repetition, Um, and actually pretty cool. So active recall being you Look at the question on the front of the flash card you made. You know, you want to go and you're like, Oh, gosh, you know, where does that muscle originate from again? Uh, and then you're like, Okay, I remember. And then you press enter. You look at the back of the card, and you're like, Oh, yes, it was actually, um, like this particular point of whatever, um and then you're like, Okay, so I got that right. And then there'll be four options at the very bottom of the screen, which say how easily you record each. You recall the answer ranging from like, super easy to really, really hard. You didn't get it. And then depending on where you click So how hard you found it. The program will learn, and it will bring up the flash card again after a session period of time. So if let's say you found it really hard, you're probably bring it up again within the neck. It's the first time you've seen the card. It'll be within the next 10 minutes, and then you repeat. And basically it learns, according to the program, learns how much you've learned some expense. There's, like a cumulative thing, so it does take quite a lot of time to make your own death. So then in the second year, that's quite a long explanation. Sorry. The second year I actually made a lot of anti cards, probably too many, So I kind of went from none to like 100. And then, um, and then I found that was too much. I actually didn't have time to revise all of them. Third year, I didn't actually make any because my part to wasn't really. It didn't find it was a very good way to learn from it. But then fourth year I actually started making more Anky cars, and now I found a nice equilibrium. So in some, I'd say give it a go if you can, especially when it comes to really, like wrote learning heavy subjects. Um, that also just be aware that it's very easy to tip over to having way too many cards and not having enough time to actually review them, which is the whole point of Yankee making them. Making the actual cash card isn't the purpose it's going through them and going through the space repetition process. So you know you'll find cars popping up from, like, you know, three months ago and then maybe you'll still remember it. Maybe you won't and then you'll keep providing them. Um, so, yeah, give it a go. That would be my recommendation, because I wish that I had known that the first year. But if you give it a go and you're like, this isn't for me, I find it really stressful. Don't stress at all. Yeah, no, exactly is, Lucy said, um, I think plenty of like lots of my friends using Ky. And I was very much like I don't know what and she was. But then, you know, lots of people started using Yankee so sort of in the first year I gave it a go for a grand total of one hour. Uh, and then I was like this. This is just not this is just not my kind of thing. Like it just didn't work for me because, I don't know, Like, I think, sometimes when you learn medicine, not only do you need to know facts, you also need to know how those facts lot into place. Um, it will make more sense as we go along. But for instance, in anatomy, not only do you need to know like everything to do with the muscles, but you also need to know about the blood vessels, and then you need to know about the nerves. And then you need to know the function of everything and then in your physiology, need to know what happens when it all goes wrong. And while it is technically possible for you to make flash cards of everything, it is so easy to make sort of too many flash cards. I think, as as Lucy alluded to, it can be really difficult to go through all the flash cards if you have them. So I think I tried to do it for one anatomy session and I realized that it's just not It's I just knew that this isn't the way that I would learn things. And so I am. I only tried anky for that one hour, and I have I've gone through up until this point without using Yankee at all. Um, but that's just personal preference. Um, if you find that it works for you, great. And it does work for a lot of people, But for other people, don't be sort of remember feeling really scared as well when it was in first year when everyone was making like a monkey. And I was like How am I going to fail my exams for not doing Anky? Um, but, you know, like, um, I found a learning technique that worked for me and I and I passed my exam. So um, yeah, just just, you know, find something that works for you. So, um, I think it's a recurring theme in our in our talk today. It's like don't be put off by one particular learning method and also don't you don't need to stick to just one learning method as loose, he said. It is perfectly possible for you to use a hanky and also something else in, like, sort of a balanced, a balanced approach. Yeah, definitely. Um, I have I have three short questions on my size is okay if I quickly run through them. And, um so one question was, did you use folder slash ring binders for organization in my first year or second year? I did, just because I wrote a lot of I did a lot of hand written notes. In retrospect, I'm I'm not sure how useful actually is. Because my hand written notes was So, um, they were so Messi a lot of the time because I was writing so fast. And also there was so much stuff that was missing that actually converting it into the electronic form was the most important. And, um, kind of, yeah, the most significant part of my note making process after lectures. So, yeah, you can use folders, bring behind this organization and get like that nice color schemes going on. But I'd say I probably wouldn't. Looking back, I probably wouldn't have spent the money to buy them because I just left. Then I was in my room somewhere hidden in the depths of Yeah, I don't know where even and I haven't looked at them since. So yeah, that's that would be my answer to that one. And I have anything to add or was about ring binders and folders. Yeah. Um, most of my notes was sort of on online. I know I didn't spend the money on that. What I did was and I still organized my any paper notes like this. When I finished making it, I get a piece of paper and fold it in half, and I use that as a sort of clip to put on Put on to and I use a paper clip to sort of put all my notes within it. Does that make sense? It's like So I just get a piece of paper, paper folded up and sort of sandwich on the side, and I'll have, like, a little chunk of paper. Like which I'll be like, this is all my material to do with anatomy. But, you know, the vast majority of my notes were online or typed, so I only have loose bits of paper here and there, so I don't really need to buy reminders or anything like that. Um, yeah, I would advise, Like, just be cautious. Like it's easy to fall into the student trap of, like, buying lots of things. So, you know, like buying a fancy laptop, buying a fancy iPad. You know, buying like this, That or the other. What? You quickly realize you don't need to buy all of this stuff or text books going back to an earlier point. You know, you probably don't even buy these things. Um, just sort of by enough to get by. I wouldn't recommend, like, spending a lot of money at this moment in time. Okay? Yeah, definitely, definitely. Um, so someone else ask where can we find the details and soon joining link for other coming meetings? Great question. Uh, we will hopefully get I mean, I really do hope that they already sent out some of the details to you guys. Uh, it should be either by the mailing list. So to your actual emails. Or it should be on the big WhatsApp group that I think you will be added to, um and I think that's where today's link came from. Um, we're hoping it'll be more organized and coming. Um, talks. The next one this Wednesday. And then we have another one on Friday and then Monday, Wednesday next week. So on Friday. Sorry. So, um, there's Yeah, there's quite a lot of talks coming up quite soon. If there are any problems, if you just get in touch with one of us will try and do our best. There's quite a few people working behind the scenes, and we will have different roles, so we just need to communicate a bit better. Um, so sorry. There's not a great answer at the moment, but hopefully it will be clearer when and everything gets sent out to you properly. Um, and then one last one was high. Would you recommend making your own? And the cars are premade. One's very easy question. Make your own. Don't use pre made ones because the whole point is that you're making flash cards in a way that you'll remember that you wrote that flash card and you remember the thought process that went into the answer as well. So, um, I'd say, really try and be away from using any premade Dex for anything, even if even if that other kind of flash cards systems out there because the really important part is actually making them yourself. So anyway, those are all the direct questions on my side. So if you have any more seconded about, if you're if you're using flash cards, make your own. I did have a few more questions on my side as well, so I had a really, really, really philosophical question which will address at the very end. I think you should be good to talk about this one. And this one I got was a bit far ahead in the future for us. But how do you manage a work life balance in clinical school? Um, so do you want to start Lucy? Yeah, of course. I love that forward thinking from you. Yeah, it's a really good question. And I think it's one that people don't necessarily address. Um, in the early stages, because, really, the way that you approach your work and habits that you form now will probably carry into you know, how you work and how you improvise and how you live your life. Come Clinical school. When you started fourth year, um, I'd say Just give things ago, you know, sign up to start a new fresh is fair and get to know the people on your course in your college and beyond. Um, you know, sign up to some random society that you can just make the most of the resources available to you that you need because there's so much going on. If you find that there's too much, don't be afraid to say no and be like too much on my plate at the moment. I can't do this. I have to drop this. And also, conversely, if you're like, uh, I'm not, I don't feel like I don't have enough to occupy my time. Other than work, definitely try and pick something random in you up just to bring a little spark into your life and stuff. Um, it's it's very easy, and I'm definitely guilty of this to be completely consumed by, um, yeah, I work and to feel like, oh, I need to be super prepared for my lectures and my supervision, and I need to not like most stupid person on the planet. Ultimately, it's It's okay. You know, we we all feel that way at some point, Um, and really your physical and mental well being are so much more important because only by having those intact and working very well will you be able to, you know, do all these other things and really flare in, like when writing your essays or flourishing the social setting or really make the most of the sports club that you joined. So I think, you know, if you find yourself really struggling mentally or you feel like you're, you know, getting really tired feeling ill, um, definitely reach out because that's really the foundation upon which everything else comes. So, you know, you can't expect yourself to be making the most of you know your d our sessions in the dissection room. If you're, you know, preoccupied all these other worries and thought that you've had recently or the fact you haven't slept well for the last five nights in a row. Um, so, yeah, I think try and form good working habits in the early years. I don't mean you have to work out in the next you know, next month. Um, but then with time, you'll find that you find what works for you. Um, one last piece of ice on my hand over the finances. I know it's really hard because the way that your accommodation is set up is that you know, you have a desk and you have your bed in the same room often times, I'd say, if you can try and work in the library or cafes. If that works for you, try and work somewhere other than where you sleep, because you'll find that there'll be no division between your rest and your work if you are constantly in the same space, um, so as much as you can try and try and leave your bed and your bedroom for where you relax or you chill when you watch Netflix where you know you practice the musical instruments, whatever it may be and then have your workspace separate to that Yeah, that would be my advice. Yeah. I mean, if you want advice on sort of like how to deal with life stuff. Lucy is a good person to take advice from, uh, I think echoing something, she said, Uh, yeah, like, um, come the end of this course, you will all be doctors and also doctors who graduated from Cambridge. The fact that you're all here, you know It means you must have smashed your academic. You know, your your schools and academic like academic, Um, like everything that you needed to do so far, you must have smashed your levels, everything. You ate your interview. So you're already some of, you know, the countries you know, top people studying medicine, right? So you're all exceptionally capable. And, you know, you were selected on that basis, right? So I think it's really important to have that big picture in mind. So, you know, realize that come the six years, you will be a doctor, and they select you on the basis that you you will pass your exams, right? So if you can have that big picture in mind, then it will be really easy for you to realize that actually, you know what? My physical and mental health does take priority over me spending that extra one hour painstakingly going through this lecture. Okay, so, um, I think most of your supervisors know that as well. But, you know, just make sure that, you know, if you're sort of finding yourself choosing between, um, obviously like, you have to be sensible about it, like, you know, you have to do work when you need to work, right? But if you find yourself constantly choosing between work and social commitment, I would urge you to consider whether you whether there's something that you know, whether you need to like, um, whether you're prioritizing work a bit too much and, you know, try and have sort of off days. I think something that worked well for me is that, um and I still try and follow this as much as possible Fridays and Saturdays. I basically do not work like like when? Obviously if I have, like, an immediate deadline coming up, I will work for it. But if not, I will just shove everything on the other the other days because I just need a day or two days where I just don't do anything. Um, And I think if you can get into a sort of, as Lucy said, healthy, healthy habits sort of earlier on, then it does help. But, you know, don't always prioritize. Work is what I'm saying. And then kind of tying onto the question that I got asked. Uh, Lucy can start this one off, because how do you deal with imposter? syndrome. Um, it's a good It's an excellent question. Whoever because yeah, like we all like, I think I think like lesbians. Everyone has it. Right. Um so well done. Kudos to you for asking that question. Yeah, definitely. It takes a lot of insight to even be aware of that in the first place. I wasn't really sure what it was. Um, just a quick summary. Basically, where you you feel like you're an imposter. You don't belong somewhere where you actually do. You will work really hard. You will go out in the grades and you smashed your interviews in order to get into medical course here. And so therefore, you're not an imposter. But however, we still feel like, Oh, you know, I feel really stupid. I don't understand anything that's going on. Like, why am I even here? Um, my initial reaction, which is perhaps be pessimistic is like, you just don't It just It just stays. But I don't think that's true. I think it's, um, almost enjoys one of those things where you just have to reason with it. So, yeah, it's very easy to in those moments where you know, in supervision, you haven't done well on the essay or you've tried some MCQ and you're like, Oh, that went awfully. I got 40% like Why am I even hear the contents really hard Guys like there's so much of it. Don't be too hard on yourself and remember like there's been one thing that always helps me a lot when it came to all. Flash comes to this feeling when pasta syndrome is, you know, so many so many generations of medical students and now doctors have been have gone through this process and surely surely you can to I've managed to, even though I felt like I was gonna fail most years that every year I still managed to pass all of my exams and I'm here now is the fifth year, Um, and that's okay. Maybe, you know, we'll never grow out of that feeling that we don't belong in this institution. Some people I've spoken to have never felt that way. They've always felt like, you know, I know, I know I belong here. I know that I've chosen the right place to come and study medicine, and that's really cool for them. But maybe it's not for everyone. So just try and reason with it and find ways of coping. If you do ever get those feelings keeping in. I don't know if there was anything else out there. Yeah, I think I think exactly as you said. It's very kind of going back to my earlier point, Like you guys are. You guys have smashed everything so far in your life to get here. And, you know, you were selected on the basis of your academic performance, and, you know, that means you obviously can do it. So, objectively speaking, you deserve to be here. Right? Um, but then, you know, like at school, you got you know, everyone is probably sort of top or very close to the top of your class. Top of your year group. You know, in school, you're you're probably getting, like, 80 to 90% on your on your on your like assessment. I think what you need to do is just You just need to shift your goal posts. Um I mean, if someone were to tell you that you are 40% in a level biology or whatever, you'd be very upset, right? Or 40% on biology MCPs would be very upset. But actually, if you look at the past Marc for anatomy, it's something like 35 to 40% you know, it was like it was like, 39.8% in our year, which means that 45% if you look at the distribution was actually a very good school to get. Um, so you just have to shift your goal posts because these are objectively hard exams. You're doing some of the hardest in the country. In fact, like I think, um, the the anatomy exam you do at the end of first year is meant to be harder than the MRCS part to that, uh, the registrar's I'm within the department currently a sitting, so these are objectively heart exams. But you all past these exams, so as long as you can get, you can you know, you get that idea and you sort of see the big picture. I think that's some way of dealing with dealing with it. But if you do find like it's becoming a problem, um, I think I asked for help. That's something that isn't really talked to you guys before you come to you need, and I don't think anyone ever explicitly tells you that when you're at your knee. But I guess a bit of advice from Lucy and I sort of outside of academia is definitely ask for help if you think that you know you're struggling with things because what you'll be surprised to find is that actually, most people are very, very willing to help and give up their time. Um, all you need to do is just ask. Yeah, completely agree. Um, I'm also conscious of time as well, because we're running a little bit. I don't know if there's any more questions on finances side, Um, but just a quick thing is if you could please fill out the feedback form on the screen right now, hopefully you can see it. And the QR code. That would be amazing, because this is still relatively new scheme, and we're really looking forward to improving a year on year for incoming freshmen as well. So that would be great. Uh, any more questions just to sort of put in some shameless plugs. So first of all, if there's again, we will try and be better on our front. We don't know what happened with the veiling with with the the Zoom Link. But anyway, uh, come to our events over the next two weeks and try and make that in person event, if you can that be really nice to see you guys in person. And the other thing is, um, as long as he said, these are sort of new schemes. So this is really the first year that Edmond soccer really trying to take on more teaching preclinical students. So Lucy and I are actually going to be co running some, um, teaching events for first years and second years. So, you know, going back to some of our earlier questions If you find that supervision and lectures are not hitting it, uh, you know, going in, then maybe come along to a few of our events. So watch out for those in your mailing lists, it would be good to see you. See you guys. Yeah, so thanks very much. Thank you so much. And we'll hopefully see you on Wednesday. And in person as well, at some point. Um, take care what