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This session is relevant to medical professionals and provides an overview of the six-year medical course, covering key subjects such as Functional Architecture of the Body (FAB), Molecular Molecules in Medical Science, Histology of Homeostasis, Social and Ethical Context of Health and Illness, and Preparing for Patients. This session covers exams and the grading process, including second MB and try post, as well as the boundaries of each grade. It also provides an overview of the structure and content of the three major subjects, with practical advice on how to prepare. Don't miss the chance to have all questions answered and get the insider knowledge to succeed in medical school.

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Learning Objectives:

  1. Understand the concept of 'Second M B' and 'Try Post', and the differences between them in terms of the overall ranking and final grade.
  2. Learn the content and structure of Fab, Home, and Minimal exams, including evaluation of short-answer, practical and essay type questions.
  3. Recognize the distinctions between passes and fails in terms of Second M B and the classifications of Try Post marks.
  4. Grasp an understanding of basic examination techniques and preparation strategies to achieve success.
  5. Assimilate the latest trends and historical data of past marks to determine expectations and target performance.
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report on this computer. Okay, Hopefully it's recording now, but basically, we just covered a kind of general overview of all six years. So generally listening, you haven't missed too much, but yeah, So now we'll kind of start on what pressures or kind of about. So we have these kind of main subject. So fab, which stands for functional architecture of the body. Uh, molecular molecules in medical science, histology of homeostasis or harm fed the foundation evidence based practice. It's actually social and ethical context of health and illness, and you're preparing for patients. So the first three subjects are kind of the big three. Uh, and the kind of core subjects will be studying over the year. And essentially, they're just fancy names for your physiology for home biochemistry, Foreman's and Anatomy for Fab will be kind of posting individual separate talks for each of the labs and then and home. So if you have any kind of particular questions about how the how you know what, you're going to be studying, how to study for that, what the content is, Um then do kind of attend those talks and you can ask questions then about those subjects. But today we'll be kind of just focusing on the exams aspect of things 50 and 60. Then there are a little bit more, uh, I guess the smaller subjects, um and, you know, we don't really have as much teaching on them. The main three are the first kind of three. Preparing for patients is something that kind of happens throughout, um, your first three years and actually on to, um, the holiday of your third year as well. Um, And that's basically a chance for you to meet a couple of patients throughout your kind of clinic, uh, preclinical years so that you know, you're not not seeing any patients at all. You get a little bit of interaction there to kind of prepare you a little bit for fourth year when you become a clinical medic, Essentially okay. And moving on. This is quite a busy slide about exams in general, and it seems like quite a lot to kind of take it all at once, but we'll work through it slowly, one by one. Um, but this just kind of shows an overview of everything. What I want to emphasize here is what kind of second m B and try post. Uh, so there's a term that you might have already heard about or you might not have. It's very early on in the process, so definitely don't worry too much about all of this. But this just gives you a bit of a taste into what things are going to be looking like. So you can see here that we have a column that's a second and be in another column that says, Try, pose. So Second and B is the kind of pass fail system, and that's what you need to pass an order to kind of move on to the next year. Um, whereas try post is more you know what grade you get at the end of the year? Um, so it's it's kind of different system in general, although each subject will kind of contribute to both second and B and try pass. But certain aspects will only contribute to a second and be some aspects will only contribute to try pose. So generally your essays contribute to try pass only, so your essays contribute to your grades, whereas everything else you do so MCQ practical questions Those contribute to whether you pass or you fail a particular subject, Um, and essentially second and B is what really matters in the end because you need to pass to move onto the next year and when you're applying for jobs when you graduated, they look at your second M B try because it's purely kind of within Cambridge. And it's about your grades, anything you want to add that George. Um, yeah, I guess. Just to summarize for the main ones. Home names in Fab There are kind of three sections in each section. One or two will be asked like some short questions and some practical questions and section three essays. Cambridge is a bit weird in the sense that, uh, get asked her estate and exams, which might be different to other medical schools. And, yeah, Serena was saying, Second, NBA is the most important aspect. Really. Um, you don't really think about this right now, but at the end of the six years, everyone gets ranked for jobs, and second, M B is what they use for the ranking, and TriCor isn't really that important. But try to put those contribute to your grade at the end of year. So you probably heard of, like, 1st and 21 and 22. So the TriCor doesn't matter for that as well as the second m B. In terms of that final ranking at the end of the six years try post doesn't really matter. Um, yeah, I think something. Yeah. So, as you were saying at the end of the year, you're going to be given your kind of class of whether you get a 1st, 21 to 2 or a third. Um, and that's what your try pulses. So this page is all kind of basically about trichopus. Um, it gets a little bit complicated, but essentially the justice we have these kind of percentage, um, classes for each class. Class one is if you get a score of 70% or higher, class to 60% to 70%. Class 22. So, uh, 22 is 50% to 60%. Then the class three will be 40% to 50%. And so on. Um, the thing to kind of note is that, uh, if you get, say, 70% in your role, Mark. So so you get 70 out of 100 questions, correct. That's 70%. That doesn't necessarily mean you will get a first, because it depends on you know how they kind of weigh everything. So some aspects partly weighted a bit more, but it has been weighted less. Also depends on your year group. Um, you know, they can change these things around, but that's all gets quite nitpicky. Basically, just have had these kind of general kind of boundaries there. If you want to think about getting a higher grade or so on, um, this is kind of the segregation of students. Uh, So, for example, for class one, um, there's around 15% to 25% of students will get a kind of first 4 to 1. 32.5 to 65. Um, so most people kind of will get a class two and then 2 to 20% to 37%. It just really depends year on year. Um, they don't really tell you beforehand. They kind of just work it out at the end. And then if you get a class three or fail, then that's around 0 to 17% of candidates. And if you look on the right. This is kind of the recent history, shall we say, um, of how many points you need to get out of 300 to get a 1st 21 or two? Two or a third? Um, and you can see every year. It is kind of slightly different. And that's what we were kind of talking about in terms of the waiting, um, and how they kind of change schools around the year on year and moving on now to kind of each subject. So fair pool talk about first. This is essentially anatomy. Um, and so once you guys get started, you'll be attending dissections, um, and attending lectures for anatomy. Um, and in terms of the scoring, we'll talk about that first. So the past marc for 2022 was 41%. Um, And so that means, you know, if you get 41% or higher than your section one or intersection two papers, then we will pass for that year. Then, uh, research for 45% can change a little bit. Um, but yeah, that's essentially just the just of flab. In terms of what papers you get, you get three papers like George mentioned earlier. So sections 12 and three, Section one, um is your short answer questions? So, um, it's basically, you know, they'll ask you a question. You might need to write a little bit about them. Um, section too. Practical questions. So this is what you're kind of cover in your dissections. Um, and it's quite a kind of hands on practical exam. You're basically given what you see in dissections so kind of, uh, sections of dissections. And you walk around. There might be some pictures, um, and you kind of just go in the circuit and you answer questions as you go. And that's called the steeplechase. Um, which you'll start hearing about once you get started with the lab, then section three. That's your essay questions. Um, and if things haven't changed, you will be given around. I think it's three questions. Three questions to write in the two hours, Um, and that contributes to your try pills only. So you can see here section one section to they contribute to both second M B and try pass. So, essentially, in order to pass, you just need to get 41% or higher. Um, in section one section to order The exact kind of cut off will depend on, you know, the your year. But say you're sitting, um examine 2022. You just have to get 41% or higher and section one, section two. In order to pass and move on to the next year, a portion of your mark will contribute to trifle. So of section one, Section two part of it will contribute to your try first grade, and then the other 50% will be your kind of s a grade as well. And that gives you your final grade at the end and moving on to home. So this is essentially physiology. Um, in the past, Mark here on 2022 is a little bit higher, and you have the recent past mark there as well. Very similar to the lab. You have three kind of papers. So the first paper is one hour and this is MCQ or short kind of short notes. Essentially, it's a short answer. Questions. Um, Section two, um, is practical questions, and these ones will be focused on histology practical that you might do so Looking at your microbiology, your cells using a microscope, things along those lines, Um, as well as some practical kind of activities and experiments that you will also do throughout the year. Then section three again. Are your essay questions? Um, so you can see it's, uh they formed kind of the same kind of structure for all of those three core subjects. So Section one injection to contribute to your second M B. And your TriCor and essays are only for your tremors. Now moving on two minutes. So this is essentially biochemistry and genetics. Uh, you can see the past marks there, and same as the other two. Um, you know, MCQ for your first paper. Second paper is kind of practical questions, which also kind of, uh, some related to Practicals that you'll be doing some some labs. Um, some experiments that you might do throughout the year. And then we have your essay questions again. Um, something to note. Um, is that the practical questions moments can be quite tricky. So it might be something that you want to, you know, Look at quite earlier on, um if it is something that you know you might struggle with it, but it is definitely something feasible to kind of pass. So I don't want to freak anyone out, but just something to kind of keep in mind as you go along. Anything you want to add That George, about any of the three subjects? I don't think so. I just bear in mind that this is kind of an overview right now. So for the more specifics about kind of the best ways to learn the lecture, consent, the Practicals, etcetera. Again, we have talks about each of the common names. So that'd be worth attending those. Um, yeah, I think somebody asked a question. One of these exams taken. So I'll be in the summer, period. So I think as we're in June Mesh, is that right? Yeah. So in the summer, basically. And, uh so yeah, like George said, uh, home and moms are taken at the end of your academic years in june. Um, but these two, So 50 and 60 they're taking the end of land term, Uh, around Easter time, Um, is when you'll be taking these two exams. These are kind of smaller exams. Um, and they are just pass or fail. So they don't contribute to your TriCor at all. All we need to do basically is just get higher than 60% or get higher than 50% for 15 century in order to move on. So with 50 this is going to be a 11 paper, essentially 45 minutes long, and it's going to be MCQ for sake. It's going to be kind, of course work, which you submit to 3000 word essays on a certain topic that you'll be told about in due course. Uh, yeah, that's That's basically all of the subjects kind of covered, Um pft, which we kind of mentioned earlier, is just something that you kind of have to do. Um, and again, it's just a little bit, of course, work from time to time and just going to speak to patients when you are asked to. Just completing what they want you to do is what you need to do to kind of pass pft. Okay, now, let's talk a little bit about exam waiting. So as we kind of mentioned before and some people have asked questions as well, um, the MV the second MV exams are used for whether you can move on to the next year or not. Try post is purely about your grade at the end of the six years, Um, and when you go on to become a doctor and when you apply for your foundation jobs, only the second M B exams are going to be used. Um, for your academic grades will cover that in a little bit more detail at the end. But essentially, you know, second and B is one of the most important thing. And try force is just about your grades, uh, Cambridge. So because I pee and 60 only count towards second and B then in terms of your ranking or your grade, um, it's only five minutes at home that will contribute towards that. Um, we'll talk about research as well in a little bit more detail. But essentially, if you do kind of find yourself in a situation where you failed one subject or or more subjects, um, you'll be given the failed score that you've got, um, at the time and not the score that you get when you reset. So, for example, say you fail, um, fat, which means you don't pass this kind of second M be kind of boundary. Um, when you reset and you do pass, you're still going to be getting the failed score that you got initially. Um, it is a little bit harsh, but that's just how the situation is and how the system is run. Okay, if for some reason, um and this is quite an exceptional kind of case, you aren't able to enter the examination because of an illness or any kind of other reason that's been approved before hand. You're going to be awarded the mean of the passing scores of your year. Okay, but those are very kind of exceptional circumstances. Um, so just keep that in mind. So about research, then, um, so your three kind of core exam papers are going to be taken in June at the end of the academic year. If you find yourself in a situation where you fail those, you will be automatically entered into the recent in September when you simply come back for your second year. If you fail that second attempt, um, then you need to contact your college and your DOS about it and kind of arrange for, um for you to kind of have another recent. So essentially your third attempt, you're going to have to arrange yourself. Whereas the second attempt. So your first recent, um, that's automatically done. So you don't need to worry about that in particular something to note about some kind of research. Or if you find yourself in a situation where you're not ready for exams for any kind of reason, Um, they do need to be declared before exams. Um, and, you know, just let your doctors know, or your to to know, Just let somebody know essentially about what's happening, and they'll kind of direct you to the right person, um, and sort things out for you, um, or And, you know, the worst case scenario. If something happens, very last minute. Say, you know, a day before exams start, Um, then you just need to let someone know within seven days of your last exam, okay? Anything to add their George? Uh, no. No, I don't think so. And basically, um, we just want to kind of emphasize that, you know, Please don't kind of freak out about anything. We've talked, uh, kind of spoken about today. It is quite a lot to take in, especially with, you know, moving in the university. Um, we're going to keep him where it's being in a new environment. Um, getting keeps of things piled at you at the moment. But just remember to kind of keep the big perspective in mind. So essentially, after you know, you've graduated after all of this, when you're applying for your foundation jobs, Um, what the your score kind of depends on or your ranking depends on for the foundation program. Are these kind of two major components the sgot, which is a situational judgment test. So one big kind of examination, Um, and that kind of contributes to 50 points out of 100. Then you have your e p. M. Your educational performance measure, and that contributes a maximum of 50 points. Um, so it goes from 41 to 50 depending on the death sell you are. So you're in the, um, 10th percentile. Then you'll get 41 points and you're on the top vessel. Then you get 50 points. Um, essentially everything you do in preclinical year and all of your academic grades and so on only contribute to, uh, quite a small proportion of your e p m. So you can see that's less than half for sure. And even less than half of that, because you still have your clinical grades to account for as well. Um, so just, you know, keep this in mind. Um, that's what you, you know, say something happens in these first three years that doesn't kind of determine anything major down the line. Um, yeah, that's that's basically everything you wanted to cover. Anything I left at all. George, before we go into any questions? Um, I don't think so. I think it's just worth bearing in mind again. But I think a lot of people get caught up in the tri pro's and about getting first etcetera. But at the end of the day, you passed. You'll end up being a doctor, for sure, and you know, even if you don't want to do medicine in the end, coming out with the Cambridge degree still looks really, really good. So I'll just bear in mind that your yourself a pat on the back for getting in the first place. Uh, yeah, we have got a lot of questions. So shall we start that Okay, so somebody asks, Are there any more exams? So there are more exams? Uh, they'll probably be run by your college, so that will vary based on your college. I don't think the faculty would do any for you, but I'll run. The faculty does run one for the lab. So there is a mock steep, which is that you probably have marks in March, uh, from your college and maybe after the Christmas holiday as well. So after each other day you call, it usually gives you some bucks. Someone has asked, uh, do our first year scores count towards our ranking? A lot for Would you say it's the later years that matter more? Um so the first year scores contribute the least. Um, it's quite opaque. You know what exact percentage that contributes, but the third year accounts the most. And second year and first year, and obviously your clinical years count even more than that. So first your scores really don't count a lot. Just want to reassure anyone who's a bit worried about that. Um, yeah, And just to clarify, these slides will be available at the end if you can. If you fill out the feedback form as well. Um, and there's also going to be a recording that will be sent out as well for anyone who joined late. Okay, somebody's asked if the fab exams are staying digital. Looking through the information from the faculty of biology, I couldn't see anything that suggested that their digital. But obviously, if you've been told by by the course organ is is that it's digital, then probably just listen to them. Yeah. Um, did you have to undertake work experience during the exam period? Does that resume after exams? Um, so you don't have to do work experience at any point in the year. I guess you can if you want to. Um, I guess the only kind of work experience that's done through because it had prepared for patients and it's scheduled in the year, but not during exams. So I think maybe that's what you're talking about. But, yeah, you don't have to do work experience during the exam period. No, um, it's the only second envy that contributes to the point system for foundation program applications. And as the secondary exams the past there was the law school and ranking use the foundation program applications. So your your score will contribute to your ranking in the year, and then you're ranked within your your group at your medical school for the foundation program applications. Um, I think that helps. And also the slide before this, I think, um, someone has asked, would you have to reset essays if you do badly. So no. So essays contribute to your tripod only. So as long as you pass, um, you know your first two papers. So the second m b part, then your essays don't don't count really at all. Um, somebody's also do RMBs account for 40%. I guess the point of the last slide was that it can at least 40%. Is that right? And then, at most, I guess around 50 if you're top vessel. Yeah. Right. Serena? Yeah, Exactly. This isn't particularly relevant, but a study in another college library. Sure. You can if you can get Uh huh. Yeah, that s a questions, like So it's gone? No. No. So I think you just cut. I think I'm cutting out a little bit. My neck is unstable, but yeah, go ahead. Go. Uh, I think for the anatomy, the questions, they're usually kind of relevant, but the lecture content that we get, um, but basically, I think we'll kind of that in more do tell in the fab Lecture next week anyway. So if you want to kind of save that question for them because I guess we can ask the nurses if you can give some examples as well, that might be quite useful. Um, do you graduate after year three with, uh, So you want to take that one? Yeah. So, um yeah. So do we graduate after year three with the Be A Or, um, we just graduated both after your six. So you graduate, Um, initially after the first three years with the be a bachelor of arts, and then you graduate again after six years with, uh, bachelor investment and surgery. So you do have to kind of graduation ceremonies. Okay. And someone else has also asked, um, they've missed the first lecture on learning. Learning to learn. Um, is there any way I can catch a recording or get a copy of the slides? Um, so that one, we do have a recording out as well, so we can definitely kind of distribute that somehow. Um, yeah. So, yeah, I think we might do that by by medstar eventually. So, yeah, we'll get them to let you know when those recordings are available. Um, what percentage of students coming out of their sixth year study able to secure foundation year one position, A large majority of them are able to secure a position, But I don't know. I'm sure you guys have read the news is about some students from being able to get an f i one position, but I think it's like very, very rare. So I wouldn't worry too much about that. Um, to the track marks count towards the insulated degree so they don't. Your insulated degree is almost separate. So what goes on your degree certificate is whatever you got in your third year. So even if you got let's say 2222 in the first two years and then got a first your third year, your degree would say first, that's purely based on your whether you do your integration. Do you get written reports after every term from shooters? Uh, so that really depends on your college. Some colleges. Um, you know the shooter's. The doses will give them a little bit of feedback after the common term. For example, um, others might not necessarily that's quite college based. Um, I'm sure you could ask more feedback if you wanted to. From your doses, they'll probably give you some rebel feedback as you go along. Tips for exams, I guess again, I think we'll go into more detail for that next week about each, uh, kind of modules in particular. So again hold off on the specific for exams. But now it's not hard. It's been the top. That's our some of us do, and others that just not make the system unfair. Yeah, I guess so. It does make it. Obviously, if you're kind of not doing great again Bridge, you still might be doing great. You probably are doing great compared to a different university. I don't know why the system is like this, but I think as soon as it's still true that you kind of get an extra points for being at Cambridge. I thought that was true, but they might have changed it now because they had a kind of a big hole of everything. Recently so previous two, I think 2023 or people graduating in 2023. Um, you would get extra points, Say, if you did some academic research or if you did, you get, like, an extra degree or something along those lines. But I think they recently kind of removed all of that. I'm not sure if they removed the extra point we're going to Cambridge. I would just bear in mind as well that in the future, once you are a doctor or if you're not a doctor going to Cambridge, well, probably make your life slightly easier. In terms of, for example, you're not doing medicine getting a different kind of job, and then also maybe within medicine, kind of as you're making your portfolio, it will look good that you went to Cambridge, so I wouldn't worry too much. Are their lecture supervision etcetera before exams? Or do you have a bit of a break from this before the exams? So you don't recall you do have a kind of a break like a week break or something. I think before exams start. Um, supervision, quite college based. So how many you get per week? Um how How long they go up until really kind of depends on your college. Um, some colleges have a lot of supervision. Others don't, Um, so that kind of just depends, But lectures do kind of end at a certain point, and they give you some time to work on just studying for exams. Do you automatically go to clinical school after third year, or do you have to get a certain part in exams? Uh, so as long as you pass, you can go into, uh, into clinical school. Actually, next question, Uh, that's also ranked in the same way. So I believe they are. They should be ranked in the same way. The subjects are the same. Except for obviously, anatomy is different because you're not going to be learning human anatomy, but otherwise, everything else should be ranked the same way. But do correct me if I'm wrong. George, about that, I know nothing about that at all. So sorry. I can't really contribute to the company. Um, all exam essays from scientific view point or some technically oriented, um, so some can be more clinically oriented. So for the essays that split into functional and clinical essays. So I guess the functional ones are slightly more from kind of scientific principles. Point of view was, obviously the clinical ones are more clinically oriented, but you'll find for the majority of your first three years that most things are kind of scientific rather than clinical. But the more clinical you can kind of build into it again. And this is stuff I would probably be covered next week, but you kind of get bonus marks for being adding some clinical flare. So yeah, um hum, you speak to the lack of exam papers for some courses and, further still resource disparity between colleges. Um, I guess that probably is a resource disparity between different colleges, and it's definitely true that some colleges are wealthier than others. But that's not to say that somebody less wealthy colleges therefore going to do worse. Like there are plenty of people that still get, like, high first and stuff, even though they haven't come from one of the wealthier colleges. Um, and I think to address kind of resource disparity. They're our societies like this. So ed, medicine and medicine, which may kind of like community resources to try and even the playing field, but I think you'll find that other than, like Super Vision's in terms of the text, books and stuff, they're kind of like available free online. Really? So I think you can make of the, uh, what you can and I wouldn't get too bogged down. We'll try to compare yourself to people from another college. Um, trying to kind of comment on that Spiriva. I think you covered it perfectly. Yeah, just look out for any kind of messed up events. Um, and your resources we share around there will be quite a lot that you can kind of access. I'm sorry. I guess for the first point for the lack exit, so I would just leave. There are quite a lot of mark papers. Actually, there's not, like a shortage. I think they're pretty clear. There are loads on mood, all that you can do. Uh, they probably aren't that many. You can look to see the older ones, which will still be relevant to you. And also, I'm sure everyone's going to have, like, everybody will have marks. So you definitely get, like, some practice for sure. And someone's asked after we graduate with a B A in third year. Do we stay at college, or do we move out? Um, so you I mean, that kind of depends on your college situation. Um, I think most colleges do allow you to kind of stay at college accommodation if you want to. But quite a lot of students also prefer to go private because, you know, it might be cheaper. They might want to live with certain other people or people from other colleges. That's quite, um, independently chosen. Um, but you should be given the option whether to do that or not. And next one, How do you know which contact from lectures is relevant to exams? So this one is quite difficult one, But essentially anything that's kind of in the lectures can be examined in exams, which is, uh, not not easy to kind of, uh know as you go about your vision process. There will be things that might be more high yield than others. Um, and that's why it's worth checking out some passed papers if you can, um, the ones that are available and they do tend to go based on you know, how many lectures each topic has. So, for example, if one particular topic has 10 lectures and another one only has one lecture, then it is kind of proportional to how many questions will be asked in the exams. So that that does kind of give you a hint. What? You should focus a little bit more of your time on. Okay. Anything to add to that, George? No, I think you're completely I think doing those are passed papers will basically help you see what they usually ask about. And that will kind of guide you to to know the relevant content again. I'm going to advertise the lectures next week, which will probably be more helpful in terms of preparing for the specific modules. Um, the next one is what does TriCor is actually count so it can your grade at the end of the year. So I'm, uh I'm not sure if you remember, Slide, but essentially, your your grade for a year is made up of a combination of the second M B. And you tried those. But you only need to kind of pass the tribals to move on to the other year. Sorry to the next year and second M B is all that counts for your final ranking at the end of the 66 years you're try. Post does make up an aspect of your grade for that year. Uh um. Are most of the med students at one or two colleges, or is it more evenly spread out? I think there are medical students at every college available. I don't think that's true of the vets, but I think every single college will have medics and probably on average, maybe like seven or eight. I think Serena from keys. So probably 100 there. But I guess I can't think about that until people know there won't be 100 people. Yeah, that would definitely be problematic at your college. Does it make it difficult to make friends? If your college has less medics, that will definitely be probably at least five or six medics. So I wouldn't worry about not being able to make medical friends at your college. Yeah, and just add to that as well. You'll be having pictures altogether with everyone else, um, in person now, Hopefully, um, so we'll definitely have opportunities to meet other medics. Um, and you probably also want to make friends with non medical as well because I might get a bit too much around medics all the time. But it's just personal preference, I guess. Um, next question. Someone has direct message. Are there any opportunities to get involved in research? Um, so in your pre kind of clinical years, there aren't, um, researchers kind of timetable into your course per se. Whereas in clinical years, you do kind of get, uh, set blocks where you can pursue a particular research topic, um, or do a project with a particular supervisor that you choose to do it with, Um and it's definitely more opportunities. I would say that are more accessible, uh, clinical years. That's not to say you can't get involved in research in preclinical years, but that tends to be a bit more kind of independently driven. So if you do, if you're interested in academics and doing some, um, something research based, then you do have to kind of take the initiative yourself and reach out to people that you're interested in doing projects with next question. How common is it for people to fail or drop out and not finish the six years? Um, not a lot, really. Um, some people do kind of leave because they might want to push through something else. After the three years I might have realized, Oh, I don't want to do, you know, kind of more medicine anymore. And that might go, you know, elsewhere. But not a lot of people kind of fail. Yeah, I think I think the number repair is like around the 10% ish mark. Isn't there all the exams? But then you got to remember that people, then, really, he said and then re join the year. So the number of people that actually drop out for the next year is is very, very low. Sorry for yourself at the start, but what years You guys were both 50 years at the moment. So feeling very old, um, is there any way we can access textbooks that on the recommended reading before we get to You know, um, I think there are those websites you can use to basically access three textbooks at the top of my head. There's one called, like a limp. Genesis has a whole stack of three. Pdf, but I'm like, sure, if you just type in the title and type in three P f down there, you'll be able to find it on Google. Yeah, definitely. And if you want to buy them in person, you go to have any kind of books or should have some of them. Um, but you might also get discounts if you buy it from the head was in Cambridge. So I'll be worth waiting, um, or else a lot of kind of older years sell their textbooks, Um, two younger years for, you know, not not a lot. So, you know, I would suggest probably waiting until you get to, you know, and there might be cheaper kind of options for you. Just a check. Is there ever any negative marking? So, no, there is no negative marking. So definitely answer every single question, if you can, even if it's a complete guess, because you won't be marked down for that MCQ. That's quite a good question. Actually, we should probably mention that, um, is any part of PFP assessed? So that's purely just something you have to do to pass that doesn't contribute to your try post. Um, I don't even think a contributor. Second M be. Really, Unless you don't turn up to any of your pft sessions, Then you might get an angry email, and you just have to go to them. Yeah, I think I'll be like a few things in here, but they don't count like your mark or anything, but they're basically like if you don't attend this, you won't be allowed to sit exams and stuff. So basically, just try and attend to the the mandatory teaching the business stuff. How many research of exams are allowed? Uh, so you're automatically entered into one. Reset, Um, and then if there are kind of extenuating circumstances, then you can apply for a third reset, But there is a kind of bored that needs to allow that to happen. Um, and you need to go through your tutor or dose to kind of get that done. So, in total, I think 33 chances to take the exam. Um, And to reset, does that make sense? How maths heavy are the exams? So I think that she, uh, has not started Therapy has a little bit of math. Some kind of statistics evolved some of the more practical papers. So Section two papers for men's, um, sometimes for home can be a little, You know, there might be some calculations to do, but not any kind of difficult maths. Really. It's mostly just knowing what equations to use. Um, And while you're using them as the main thing, so matters is kind of an emphasis, I'd say in the exams. Bit of a silly question, but why the add meds and not mad? Uh, no. George, you want to answer that question? I actually have no idea why. I think I actually, uh, Medicaid stock. And then last year's president, who's name happened to the ed changed it to Ed Med sock. So either I'm thinking it was part of conspiracy for him to have his name first. Or it might be to stop confusion between, like, clinical website. Yeah, I honestly that Okay. Someone to ask. How do we fill out the feedback form? That's a very good question. Uh, so here is the QR code for the feedback. So if you want to scan that or um, yeah, they should send you to the feedback from let us know if it isn't working. Um, then once you fill out the feedback from usually send the slides and also the recording. Once, uh, the session is over as well. What hospitals are used for clinical years And are your clinical years solely clinical? Um, so the first part of that question, the hospitals are basically in the area and essentially, um, so in Cambridge in general. So Adam Brooks in Cambridge, Pap birth and Cambridge. And then there'll be some regional district hospitals like Peter Breath. Um, very Saint Edmunds switch Bedford. Just kind of, um, ever around in the area. And then are your clinical yes, solely clinical? Um, so I think what you're kind of implying there is. You know, do we just see patients or do we also have lectures? So you do still have some lectures and you have kind of certain weeks, um, throughout the year where you basically just have lectures to go to, um and the rest of us are more patient oriented, But it is definitely much more hands on learning and quite a different learning style that's actually to kind of get used to How many lectures do that to the medics share? On average, I don't think they're the best people to ask about the vets, Um, and what they do, But they From what I know, they should share everything except for anatomy. Because, for obvious reasons, uh, that's about it. Yes, The only thing that gets to do differently. At least in the first year. In the second year, they do different things, and later on, they are completely kind of segregated, and you don't really see them around anymore. Do medical society like yours arrange mark exams, revision sessions, etcetera or quizzes? Um, I guess rather than exams. Uh, so I don't think any medicine does mark exams for pre clinical years, but we will be hosting a kind of series in preclinical lectures. Um, so there will be revision sessions, but not mark exam. Yeah, I guess it's worth clarifying that, uh, add meds. Sock is more of like a clinical societies. And so a lot of like the marks that we do our for the clinical years. But I think what we can do is we can discuss with Medicaid if that's something that you guys have been for, like more exams, your vision sessions, etcetera. But I think once you guys do get into college and they start arranging your mark exams and stuff. You know, you might feel slightly fatigued from that already. I'm not sure if another exam on top of that is something that you want after Christmas, but yeah, I guess we can. We can ask medicine about about that. Yeah, uh, any more questions at all? If not again. If you put out the feedback access to the slides and then when we finish, we'll upload the recording as well. So you can look back at what you said, but, um, yeah, there is no negative market. So answer every every question because you won't be marked out. Okay, Um, and yeah, again as an advertisement Friday this week and then Monday, Wednesday, Friday, next week. We'll have talks again at six. On the zoom. And I think the link was emailed to you guys, but it's also on the medicine Facebook group. And this Friday, it's about writing essays, which it's quite an itch scale, especially medical school. And then next week we'll have lectures. More specifically, we're not lectures, but you know what I mean. The sessions more specifically on lab, home and memes. Um, yeah. Okay. Where will the recording be uploaded? So if you follow this feedback, you are the website called Medal. And so I think what happens is once you sign up with your email, they send through a link which you can use to get to the sides. And then also the recording will be on that website as well. It's just obviously we're still recording it at the moment, so it won't be that immediately. Classes separate for the Be A and okay, so you only get classes in your pre clinical year years. You don't get them in your clinical years, so you don't get classes for the second three years. Um, should you revise topic throughout the year or just before the exam? I guess it depends on the kind of like a person you are and like, I know that a lot of people enjoy doing like those extra trips, this stuff as well and then kind of cramming just before I think just do whatever works for you. Uh, I think you'll hear this again again, again. But there's no right way to learn. So I think just do whatever you think will suit. But if you think you're one of those people that need to study throughout the year, then you study throughout the year. I think there's no right way of doing it. Is it possible to receive a recording of the next session for those not able to make it? Yeah. So I think what we'll do is once we've done all six sessions, we'll group the recordings together. Probably like a group will drive or something, and we share that with medicine. But for now, if you tend to talk so obviously it's not possible in this. But for now, if you tend to talk and then get the feedback, we'll put the recordings and, as soon as possible, school. And then if you're not able to make it, we'll do it by medicine. Doc, can you please put a link to the website for recordings again, if you followed? I just think it's a middle. It should. It should work. Not exactly related, but what happens at the end of the year? Exams infrequent. You have a very, very long holiday, and it's lovely. Uh, yeah, and you get results. I can't remember when you got results. Arena. I'm not actually sure I think it's half way through the holidays at some point. Well, maybe it's like a month later. Something on those lines. Um, but yeah, they'll they'll let you know where they kind of access. Um, your your results, and they will send you a kind of email being like, Oh, your your results are out. Um, so don't worry about missing them, and you'll have a kind of website to go to court Kansas, where you can access all of your kind of academic records when your exams are where they take place, when your results at the end as well. And someone has just asked whether we can send a link to the feedback instead of the QR so we'll just get the link now and then send it to the chat and then time I guess I moved. Uh, I could What? What is definite? Uh huh. What kind of depend on you? I imagine the majority. Yes, because you have, like, times because they're only be the two or three of you. So I'm sure we'll be able to work it around stuff like, you know, sport or other commitments. Um, how do we find passed papers on the needle. Um, I can't remember the exact way of doing it, but I'm sure it's kind of like under assessment or something like that on the past papers. But they'll probably be a tab, which you can access. It will probably be via the specific, uh, module. So if you go to like the fact page, then probably on the front page, there'll be a passed papers tab. But you can go and look through the past papers on number of lectures. Pft supose Practicals etcetera after exams before the end of term. Um, I think for most colleges, you don't have to do anything during the summer. Maybe in some cases you'll start supervision before the start of you. And I think that's quite rare. Um, and as Pft in some cases would be before the start of lectures. But again, it won't be like in the middle of your summer will be a couple of weeks before that. Most, um, but I think probably if you're doing a reset, they'll probably be some sessions as well during the summer. But if not, then your summer is usually very free. Uh, syringes. Anything to add to that Not really. I think you covered it all. Um, some of us How true it is. One part time work during in terms. So there is a cap on how many hours you can do a week. I think it's either 20 hours or 10 hours. Um, do you know exactly how many hours it was a joke. So I'm not sure about the exact, um, but it will be kind of written somewhere. Either 20 or 10. I'm positive either one of those two numbers, so yeah, but they're not very kind of strict on it. No one is like, Are you working or, like, you know, checking up on you? Yeah. Cheap is usually very chill. So I don't think they probably chase you up on that or anything. Just, you know, for the feedback for whichever you want. I guess if you're making a metal work out, what? Okay, to be sent to, um for course work. Is there any help with this? You to draft meetings or is it just said And you have to work at it by yourself, I guess. Of course. Work. You're talking about sex for us. It wasn't course work. We had to sit as an exam, write essays in person. Uh um, but before and there were sessions where you meet up and kind of discuss different effects of, like, ethics in medicine, etcetera. And I can't remember how many sessions they were, but they were probably about weekly. It was kind of like having supervision. So you definitely have support, and I'm help you, but probably a question. Better aim that some of the people that had to do it, of course, work again. Fairly old and back in our time. You have to be a person that's course work, part time. Work is this would reference the clinical years, as I thought it was completely banned, at least pre can. Uh, Serena? Any any thoughts? I am just going to check that out. But I think from what I can recall, they suggest you not to work because, you know, something is a full time degree. Potentially have a full time job. I mean, but I think you can work a certain number of hours, but I do kind of double check that. Yeah, I think it also depends on whether you're a student, visa or not for some international students because I think the international students it's kept at 20 hours. But I'm not sure about, you know, whether you're a home student. Um, what that would be. Mm. I think I'm not a list. I'm aware that it's nearing seven. So kind of seven. Any final final questions now, if not, you have the opportunity to ask questions again on Friday, Monday, Wednesday and Friday at six PM Again, link should be by email or by a baseball, Um, three liver emails, maybe. Or, um, yeah, we can leave the admits of email and then just add all the walls will be holding an in person session. Um, at the end of all of these lectures where, you know, hopefully you guys turn up and ask any questions face to face. And so we can discuss anything as well and a bit more detail because it can be difficult, you know, answering questions on the chat. Um, so you have plenty of opportunities to ask questions over the next few weeks. Yeah, so that face to face one will be probably 12 o'clock. I think it's the plan date, but we'll update on Facebook, you know, um, but again. Thanks, guys. Um, should we stop the recording? Brilliant.