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Management of Common Presenting Complaints
Using NICE Guidelines
History Taking and Safety Netting
TOPICS A to E Assessment
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NEWS Score
TODA Y
Anticoagulation Record (Yellow Book)
CURB 65/ Wells Score/ PESI
BTS vs NICE Guidance for Asthma/COPDCase 1
55M presents to A&E with
whilst lifting boxes as he
was moving house. Chest
pain is described as central
and burning. Has been
having similar episodes for
the last 6 months. What should you do first to manage this
patient?
1 2 3 4 5
Call the cath lab Further history Send off a Diagnose the Obtain an ECG
as this patient is about patient’s troponin and patient with panic
having a STEMI chest pain triage to attacks and
Cardiology SpR propanololtartingComponents of a Good
Clinical HistoryCase 1: Additional
History and Labs
• not radiate. Settles after 15 minutes. Isoes
present only after exertion. No pain at rest.
• PMH - Hypertension, High cholesterol,
• activity, poor diet cig/day, no physical
• 98% on air, RR 14, pulse 90, Temp 37.5, Sats
• additional sounds, HS I + IIr entry, no
• Blood test: Pending
• Troponin: PendingPutting the Pieces Together for The
Patient
• Chest pain - likely cardiac pain, still awaiting the blood test for
your heart, tracing of your heart appears normal currently
• If blood test positive will need to stay in to be monitored and
repeated , if negative I will have discuss with my senior but we
may be able discharge you.
• GP, GTN spray , Aspirin + statin, Beta blocker for the chest pain on
exertion
• In the mean time, we shall wait on the blood results (or repeated
if needed) If worsening chest pain, similar sx occur please inform
the nurse ASAP .
• F2s can’t discharge a cardiac chest pain without senior discussionCase 2
55 M, PMH previous
MI 5 years ago.
Presented admitted
with worsening
SOBOE and lower
limb swelling. Nurse
asks you to see him
for a NEWS of 6. How Would Y ou Initially Manage This Patient?
1 2 3 4 5
Give 40mg Obtain a CXR Conduct an Escalate to Obtain an ECG
furosemide A-E is unwell patient
IV STAT assessmentNational
Early
Warning
Score
(NEWS)National
Early
Warning
Score
(NEWS)NEWS of 5
1. respiration rate: 22
2.oxygen saturation: Saturating 97% on
4L NC
3.systolic blood pressure:114/87
4.pulse rate: 92
5.level of consciousness or new
confusion: Alert
6.Temperature:36.5 • Airway: Patent and patient speaking to
you
• Breathing: Equal chest expansion and
rise. Respiratory rate is 22. On
auscultation chest has bilateral crackles
at lung bases. Patient is saturating on
97% on 4L NC
Assessment • Circulation: No evidence of peripheral
cyanosis, CRT<2s, Pulse 94 and regular,
BP 114/87, Raised JVP present, increased
additional heart sounds or murmurso
• Disability: Patient is alert, BM-7.5
• Everything: Peripheral oedema up to the
level of the mid thigh which is 3+pitting
in natureManagement
• Diagnosis - likely heart failure
• Treatment – Diuretics, oxygen,
echo,cardio input, Monitor closely
(daily weight, daily U&Es, ins and
outs)
• Sit up, oxygen, consider vasodilators
(GTN) and then IV diuretics
• Advise will be reviewed by specialist
heart failure nurse to organise
cardiac rehab and clinic follow up
once leaving hospitalHeart Failure Service
A set of community nurses that help to bridge the
gap between primary and hospital care for the follow
up of patients with heart failure that are
symptomatic but do not require hospital level
treatmentCase 3
68 F presented to A&E
has been getting theme
on and off for the last 2
weeks but today it
started 2 hours ago and
she is feeling light
headed. No chest pain.
Stable BP . How Would Y ou Manage This Patient?
1 2 3 4
If this patient is If this patient is If the patient is If the patient is
haemodynamically haemodynamically haemodynamically haemodynamically
stable, cardiovert unstable, unstable, start a stable, start a beta
this patient anticoagulate this beta blocker blocker
immediately patient immediately immediately immediatelyCommunication with the Patient
Explanation of atrial fibrillation in simple to understand terms
Explanation of management going forward
Explanation of the benefit of medication and the increased risk of bleeding
If starting on warfarin, explain the yellow book and the need for frequent
follow up with anticoagulation clinic and warfarin nursesCase 4
75 M, Attended A&E
with SOB and
productive cough for the
last 7 days. RR:28
saturating 96% on 4L
NC, BP 96/64, HR 88
and T 38. Green sputum
production.Labs:
CRP 2
WCC 9.8
Hb 120
Neutrophils 7.8
Urea 4.3 mmol/L What Is The Most Likely Diagnosis?
1 2 3 4 5
Bronchitis Exacerbation Pneumonia Pulmonary pulmonary
of COPD Embolism oedemaLabs:
CRP 187
WCC 13.0
Hb 120
Neutrophils 16.3
Urea 8.3 mmol/L What Is The Most Likely Diagnosis?
1 2 3 4 5
Bronchitis Exacerbation Pneumonia Pulmonary pulmonary
of COPD Embolism oedemaWhat Is The CURB65 Score For This Patient?
1 2 3 4 5 Always Follow Trust Antimicrobial
Antibiotic Guidelines First As Usually Made
Choice? Based on Local Resistance Patterns
Oral vs IV Antibiotic Choice
Using Sputum to Guide Your
ManagementCase 5
42 F presents to GP . Has
had a dry cough for the
coughs up blood as well.lly
Associated with weight
loss, fatigue and
decreased appetite.
History of frequent
traveling abroad and
significant smoking historyWhat Are Some Differential Diagnoses for this
Presentation?DifferentialsWhat Are Some Investigations to HelouY
Narrow Down The Pathology?CXR is done which is
highly suspicious for a
diagnosis of lung
cancer and a CT chest
has been advised by
RadiologyCase 6
35 F presented to
referred from GP with
unilateral lower limb
swelling up to knee.
Reddening and
tenderness of the calf.
Taking OCP . Mother has
a history of PE. What is the most likely diagnosis
1 2 3 4 5
Cellulitis DVT Venous erythema compartment
eczema migrans syndrme What Can Help Us Assess the Risk of A Patient
Actually Having a DVT or PE?
1 2 3 4
TIMI Risk ScorePESI Score Well’s ScoreCHA₂DS₂-VASc
ScoreContraindications to Anticoagulation
1. Active Bleeding
2. Haemorrhagic Stroke
3. Major bleeding (gastrointestinal,
intracranial, intraocular,
retroperitoneal)
4. Bleeding Disorders (haemophilia,
thrombocytopenia, other bleeding
disorders)
5. Peptic Ulcer
6. Oesophageal Varices
7. Aneurysm
8. Proliferative Retinopathy
9. Recent Major Surgery
10.Recent Major TraumaCase 7
18 F. BIBA worsening
Struggling to talk in full
sentences. PMH
Asthma since childhood.
She has been using her
blue inhaler like usual
but she is not feeling
any better. An A-E Assessment is Done. Which of the
Following Features Would Make You Concerned
About Life Threatening Features?
1 2 3 4
Completey to Respiof 24y Rate PaO2 of 8.5kPa P5.2kPaf
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Management
BTS vs NICE GuidelinesReferences
• NICE UK Guidelines
• NHS Website
• Gram Project (AF Guidelines Schematic)
• GREPMed (CURB 65 Schematic)
• CXRs from radiopaedia.org
• British Thoracic Society
• NHS University Hospital Sussex on Life Threatening Asthma